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Ghulam
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 4:01 pm Reply with quote
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Billy, "Disagree that Jolie is excellent. She's miscast and leaden."

The character comes across as a besieged but dignified woman. I did not think she was leaden.

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billyweeds
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 4:07 pm Reply with quote
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gromit wrote:
I'm a Julia Roberts fan, but the trailer for Duplicity was rather off-putting.
I know trailers are mostly marketing gimmickry and can be misleading, but this looked clunky and unappealing.

Variety loved it.


I agree about the trailer. In fact, I was worried that Julia, Clive, and my boy Tony had struck out. Was I relieved to read those glowing reviews! Of course, I haven't seen the movie yet, but I'm feeling more hopeful.
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billyweeds
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 4:10 pm Reply with quote
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lshap wrote:
For what it's worth, I really like Julia Roberts onscreen and yet I've never found her sexy in the least.


I find Julia very appealing. But I feel about Demi Moore and Halle Berry the way you do about Julia. Halle is inarguably gorgeous and Demi looks good, but there's nothing going on under the surface. This is the essence of non-sex appeal.
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marantzo
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 4:17 pm Reply with quote
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Helen Mirren? You taste and mine are miles apart. She's a real woman and for me she is hot hot hot!
lshap
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 5:41 pm Reply with quote
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Gary - I should probably clarify I meant Mirren as she currently looks. Still attractive but older. I don't think of her as a younger woman and am not familiar with her older films, though the old pics I've seen are pretty hot.

I'd guess anyone who never saw Sophia Loren, Liz Taylor or Betty Bacall in their prime would have a similar reaction to them as they are today.

Now Raquel Welch, on the other hand, I plan to keep pursuing until she's 85.
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marantzo
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 6:00 pm Reply with quote
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I prefer mature women. Always have. And I thought Mirren at the Oscars when she won was stunning. Just a matter different tastes I guess.
Earl
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 6:48 pm Reply with quote
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billyweeds wrote:
Befade wrote:
From all the trailers of it I've seen.......It's a movie where Julia Roberts gets to be thrilled about being Julia Roberts on the big screen again.

I'm witholding.


What is so terrible about a superstar with a dazzling smile and a charismatic personality being superstarrish on the big screen after a nine-year space between starring roles? I can't wait.

But part of the definition of a superstar is that s/he has strong defenders and detractors. Count me as one of the former. Sorry to see that Betsy is one of the latter. But whatever.


While it's not near enough to keep me from going to the movie, I think I can see what Betsy means. But, as Gromit noted, trailers are often misleading.

Plus, I've admired Roberts' work in several movies. When I see her being interviewed, however, there is something about her being in continual flirt/tease mode that makes me want to switch channels. The trailer seems to be amplifying those qualities. According to Marc, though, that image is at odds with who she is out on the street.

Given the movie's pedigree, I'm in. It'll probably be next weekend, but I'll see it.

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lshap
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 10:52 pm Reply with quote
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Despite my sexual indifference to Ms. Roberts (on the other hand, she doesn't leave me alone or take a hint) I think she's been practically perfect in every role she's had. She's a big presence, and the 'Star' thing works for her as it did to perfection in Notting Hill. But, as Erin Brokovitch proved, she also does skank, as well as every other type of role in between. That kind of track record doesn't make her one of the great actresses; it DOES make her a very solid, consistent one.

Off the top of my head, the only total miss that comes to mind was her cipher-like performance in Ocean's 12.
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billyweeds
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:49 pm Reply with quote
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lshap wrote:


Off the top of my head, the only total miss that comes to mind was her cipher-like performance in Ocean's 12.


On the money. She was so dull I couldn't believe it was really her. One of my favorite performances of hers was in Confessions of a Dangerous Mind. Clooney brought out a side of her that's rarely seen, and that really is genuinely sexy.

She's wonderful in My Best Friend's Wedding, playing a real bee-yotch, the kind of role superstars generally eschew.
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Befade
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 12:21 am Reply with quote
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Then again, among my top-10 favorite movies is Pretty Woman, and that made people sit up and take notice of Julia Roberts.


Oh no..........a woman who liked Pretty Woman.......That film never should have been made. Glamorizing prostitution........call girling her way to the top.......And how can Richard Gere claim to be a buddhist when he chooses the role of a john?

I liked JR in Erin B. and some other films.....not in Charlie Wilson's War. And honestly I've heard enough of her wide-mouthed laugh for a lifetime. Of course she could be a nice, sweet person in real life. For goodness sakes, She Knits!

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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 2:03 am Reply with quote
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lshap wrote:
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Off the top of my head, the only total miss that comes to mind was her cipher-like performance in Ocean's 12.


"Mary Reilly?"
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Ghulam
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 2:55 am Reply with quote
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Although I have not raved over Apatow-style comedies before, I did enjoy John Hamburg's I Love You, Man a lot. It is full of laughs and it does not insult our intelligence.

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billyweeds
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 6:03 am Reply with quote
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Haven't yet seen I Love You, Man--it will follow Duplicity--but I expect to like it. What makes me very amused is the fact that "Apatow-style" is now an accepted term. A year-and-a-half ago or so no one outside inside Hollywood knew the name Judd Apatow from a hole in the ground. Now he's the eponymous leader of a whole style of comedy. Is this a great country or what?

Of course, much the same could be said of Bernie Madoff and Sarah Palin.
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Joe Vitus
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 6:12 am Reply with quote
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I Love You, Man looks appallingly bad to me. The sort of "it's a guy thing" movie that doesn't connect with the experience of any guy on the planet. Except maybe the few sterotypical souls who actually refer to themselves as "guys." But I think they're too busy grabbing a plate of wings at Hooters after spending the afternoon at the mall buying football jerseys to wear to the strip club later that evening to bother checking out I Love You, Man.

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billyweeds
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 6:19 am Reply with quote
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Joe--I don't know where you're coming from. If you don't recognize the long-standing tradition of homoeroticism in buddy movies (can you say Butch Cassidy? Lethal Weapon? Etc.?) and in life itself, then you must be living under a rock. I think it's not only high time, but healthy, that this phenomenon is triumphing over homophobia and coming out of the closet, so to speak. The movie looks like a real breath of fresh air. The premise, as I read it, has the lead guy's fiance advising him to get a male friend--he has none--to get in touch with his own feelings. I'm happy to say that I have several really close male friendships that have enhanced my life to the point where I wouldn't be able to function without them.

And by the way, I've never grabbed a plate of wings at Hooters or bought a football jersey. About the strip clubs, we'll talk later, maybe after a date for I Love You, Man.
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