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| lissa |
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| Quick note about the buzzwords regarding graphic novels - the format DOES lend itself to "grim" and "dirty" and "horrifying" and "painful"; witness Maus, Persepolis and Bottomless Belly Button. No reason to shy away from a graphic novel with those difficult subjects unless one expects a comic book which, as you pointed out, Joe, is not the same thing. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 7:36 am |
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Joe Vitus wrote: Who says? Sorry, but you guys would be much more convincing saying you found it more indelible/iconic than pretending the general consensus does/will agree with you. I've heard almost no one mention Rourke's performance outside of this forum. Not at all sure it is more likely to go down in cinema history than Penn's.
Joe--Everything on the forum is de facto opinion. Plus which I added "IMO." Plus which you haven't been listening to the same people I've been listening to if you haven't heard people talking and talking and talking--in admiring tones--about Rourke's performance. I would say the majority of people I know much prefer it to Penn's. Sean Penn won the Oscar largely because Brokeback Mountain lost the Oscar to Crash and Proposition 8 passed. And that, too, is IMO. (But probably true.) |
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| mo_flixx |
| Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 8:33 am |
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billy --
What movie do you plan to see today? |
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| mo_flixx |
| Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 8:39 am |
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Here it is March 8th, and these are the films at the local multiplex: Last Chance Harvey, The Reader, Revolutionary Road, Slumdog Millionaire, The Wrestler. Most of them _just_ got here.
That's why people I know aren't talking about them...yet. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:10 am |
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mo_flixx wrote: billy --
What movie do you plan to see today?
I assume you're referring to my Facebook status. It's a screening of a movie a friend of mine is starring in, a short feature film called Fourhand. Looking forward to it. |
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| lshap |
| Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 10:04 am |
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I think this group is less likely to chatter about The Watchmen because the comic is newer and younger than Third Eye's general demographic. Face it - we're old. All of us grew up with Batman, few of us knew anything about The Watchmen.
I went to see it because it's the post-Oscar movie slow season, otherwise may have missed it in favour of a dozen other films. Glad I didn't. |
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| Syd |
| Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 10:19 am |
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lshap wrote: I think this group is less likely to chatter about The Watchmen because the comic is newer and younger than Third Eye's general demographic. Face it - we're old. All of us grew up with Batman, few of us knew anything about The Watchmen.
I went to see it because it's the post-Oscar movie slow season, otherwise may have missed it in favour of a dozen other films. Glad I didn't.
I've known about and owned Watchmen for 20 years. It won a Hugo in the "Other forms" category in 1988. |
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| lissa |
| Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:00 am |
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| Lorne - and anyone else who's seen Watchmen - friend of mine took his 13-year-old son to see it last night and said it was definitely NOT for kids, though that's how it's been touted. Comments? |
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| Kate |
| Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:38 am |
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lissa wrote: Lorne - and anyone else who's seen Watchmen - friend of mine took his 13-year-old son to see it last night and said it was definitely NOT for kids, though that's how it's been touted. Comments?
As with so many films, that depends largely on the kid. My 13 year old son really dug it. It was pretty grim at spots and has a rather amusing sex scene, but very character driven. But my son loved it. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 12:05 pm |
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Quote: All of us grew up with Batman, few of us knew anything about The Watchmen.
I rarely read Batman. Too many words. I liked the drawing though. As far as graphic novels being different than comic books, that is true of the era when the comics were censored (caused delinquency, had to be cleaned up), but the pre-censorship comics had a lot of excellent examples of terrific artwork and excellent stories. Stories that could be very dark and deep and many times sardonically funny. There was sexy stuff in them also. I think that the graphic novels are an extension of these classic comics. |
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| Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 12:08 pm |
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| I've said this many times before, but I think that most kids tolerate gore and mayhem and dark plots better than most adults. I guess I'm only talking about boys. |
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| Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 12:23 pm |
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| It is rated R, so I am not sure that it is being pushed to kids. I often take my kids to films many would deem inappropriate. We all went to see Pineapple Express and boy did I get my fair share of glares. One coworker asked if I was trying teach my kids how to smoke pot, it was pretty funny. My kids have a pretty good view of the world and good common sense. But who knows, they could both be smoking a big fat dooby (or is it doobie) right now. |
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| lshap |
| Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 2:19 pm |
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We watched The Watchmen one row in front of a couple who brought their 8-year-old son. It shows that the theater crew has no clue who they let in, and it shows some parents have no clue what their kids should be seeing.
During the sex scenes we heard discreet whispering. During the violence, not a word.
Discuss. |
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| Befade |
| Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 2:37 pm |
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Quote: Who says? Sorry, but you guys would be much more convincing saying you found it more indelible/iconic than pretending the general consensus does/will agree with you. I've heard almost no one mention Rourke's performance outside of this forum. Not at all sure it is more likely to go down in cinema history than Penn's.
It's going to be wonderful to see what Mickey does next. I do think Sean Penn is a great, perhaps fully realized talent......and by that I'm including his direction of Into the Wild and The Pledge. |
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| Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 4:47 pm |
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Quote: Who says? Sorry, but you guys would be much more convincing saying you found it more indelible/iconic than pretending the general consensus does/will agree with you. I've heard almost no one mention Rourke's performance outside of this forum. Not at all sure it is more likely to go down in cinema history than Penn's.
Time will will prove me right. You can bet on it Joe.
Penn's performance in MILK is not even among his best. I thought he did better work in AT CLOSE RANGE, BAD BOYS, THE FALCON AND THE SNOWMAN, FAST TIMES, Hurlyburly. |
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