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lady wakasa |
Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 8:27 pm |
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Marj wrote: LADY!! OUCH. Remember the old saying: It only hurts when I laugh?
I thought you were coming here yesterday. I kept looking into car windows. I really did!!
Well, *that's* why you couldn't find me - I took the train!
And - STOP that laughing! |
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Marj |
Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 11:11 pm |
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I figured as much.
And I CAN'T!! |
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Ghulam |
Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 1:44 am |
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For Your Consideration, Academy.
(The New York Times's film critics offer their own nominations for the year's best.)
http://tinyurl.com/7qnw9f
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gromit |
Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 1:52 am |
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Watched Revolutionary Road last night.
A very well-directed film with a lot of attention to detail. DiCaprio really looks 1950's here and has a lot of period mannerisms down cold (palm on forehead in frustrated anger, hands in and out of suit pants pockets, etc.). At times, Leo looked like some lost relative of William H. Macy. I think Winslet has the more difficult role, and at times is excellent, but maybe not as fully locked into the period as Leo.
The character of the contentious son of their real estate agent/friend is a bit exaggerated, but really provocative and well played. Blanche nom. coming for Michael Shannon in that role. I didn't really care for Kathryn Hahn as the neighbor's wife, maybe because the part was too ambiguous and underdeveloped. Overall, the situations and arguments can become pretty powerful and charged, and I was left thinking that the source novel must be pretty strong. (Has anyone read it?)
I guess mostly due to Kate, I was often reminded of Little Children, re-worked for the 50's. Both films are about a woman who wants to escape from her normal boring family life in the burbs. The film looks great and I should have guessed that it was lensed by Roger Deakins. But towards the end, skewed close-ups are employed to show the characters' psychological troubles, which I thought wasn't especially effective. And the music was a bit distracting at times (but I'm never much of a fan of Hollywood music cues). The dialogue and acting in their first big argument in their home felt a bit off to me.
Another flaw is how the kids disappear for super-extended periods. In fact, they hardly appear, and when Leo finally comments that it's nice to have breakfast without the kids for a change, I thought, Oh yeah, they are supposed to have two children. I can't even remember by what flimsy pretext the kids are away throughout most of the film.
Two small things seemed out of place. At one point, Leo's workmate refers to "life in the cubicles" or somesuch, and cubicle struck me as too modern a word. Not positive, but it seemed anachronistic. Quick research shows cubicles being first used in the computer industry (Intel) in the mid-60's, while this has a 50's setting (though Leo works for a NYC computer/business machine company, so not far off). The second was the use of the modifier "fucking" which gets thrown around some mid-film. I just don't think people used it then as we do today, and while Leo gets angry, I had doubts he would use it in what used to be called mixed company. And I think the reaction to such language would be much stronger than presented, gasps maybe from the middle-aged woman.
But the period detail is impressive. I liked the clothing and hair styles. There is one scene during a night out where a pregnant character is smoking and drinking martinis. It stood out as grossly irresponsible behavior, and took me a few seconds to realize that back then it's likely nobody would bat an eye. I also liked some of the brief shots at Grand Central Station, which possibly reference some actual 50's films.
Revolutionary Road is definitely worth a viewing and should figure somewhere in the awards. |
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yambu |
Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 2:09 am |
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Ghulam wrote: For Your Consideration, Academy.
(The New York Times's film critics offer their own nominations for the year's best.)
http://tinyurl.com/7qnw9f
. If Wall-E wins best picture, I would be pissed if I cared. |
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gromit |
Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 2:22 am |
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NYT trio with a good deal of love for The Visitor and Wall*E.
Manohla Dargis with the odd selection of Werner Herzog, Encounters at the End of the World as BEST ACTOR! She also pushes Synechdoche by giving 4 of her 5 Best Supporting Actress Noms to Syn, NY.
A.O. in a time warp with Hanna Schygulla, Catherine Deneuve, and Jeanne Moreau among his 5 Best Sup Actresses. |
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gromit |
Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 3:11 am |
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Take a look around.
2008 is shaping up to be a fine year for film ... when you actually get to see all of the end-year releases. Same as usual. Hard to evaluate a year until the following Spring, really.
I have a dozen films that I really liked:
The Tracey Fragments; My Winnipeg; Revolutionary Road; Waltz with Bashir; Burn After Reading; The Wrestler; JCVD; Milk; WALL•E; In Bruges; Du Levande; Up the Yangtze.
And at least another dozen talked-about films that I need to see:
Slumdog Millionaire; Synechdoche; Happy-Go-Lucky; Rachel Getting Married; Wendy and Lucy; Doubt; Gran Torino; The Curious Case of Benjamin Button; Frozen River; Frost/Nixon; Silent Light; Religulous; Nick and Norah's Infinite Playlist; Let The Right One In.
I really don't even have much clue about the foreign films yet. |
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Joe Vitus |
Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 3:15 am |
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Caught Frost/Nixon tonight with Earl. A mundane movie that goes by the ABC book of dramturgy, i.e., Frost has to become Nixon, Nixon has to become Frost, both are shown at their worst and both get a kind of redemption (though obviously Frost is reclaiming the top of his profession and Nixon going the other way). All the performances are stylized (read "unrealistic/cartoonlike," Kevin Bacon is probably the worst of the leads, but they're all guilty) and there's nothing new to learn about anyone. The pseduo interviews with people who made the interviews happen are ridiculous (because we never believe we're watching interview footage). No depth, no insight. Proficient, but nothing more. |
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gromit |
Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 7:01 am |
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Let me be the first to pan Slumdog Millionaire.
I really disliked the editing, a good deal of the music was equally annoying, and the structure of the film was cheesy and inane. The style and storytelling were a real turn off for me.
Also, I was left with a million little questions, such as how the street kid could learn English well enough to pretend to be a tour guide, how the blind beggar child knew about Benjamin Franklin, etc.
I hated how things just happened without context (ie. the religious attack) and got tired of the kids running away from adults repeatedly in the first half hour. Rather phony how these homeless kids grow up to be honest, well-adjusted and very good-looking young adults. It wasn't until 2/3rds of the way through the film when I understood the structure of the quiz show. Then things get fairly hokey towards the end; not that the whole premise of his quiz show run wasn't based around a string of improbable coincidences. |
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Trish |
Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 7:45 am |
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gromit wrote: Watched Revolutionary Road last night.
A very well-directed film with a lot of attention to detail. DiCaprio really looks 1950's here and has a lot of period mannerisms down cold (palm on forehead in frustrated anger, hands in out and out suit pockets, etc.). At times, Leo looked like some lost relative of William H. Macy. I think Winslet has the more difficult role, and at times is excellent, but maybe not as fully locked into the period as Leo.
The character of the contentious son of their real estate agent/friend is a bit exaggerated, but really provocative and well played. Blanche nom. coming for Michael Shannon in that role. I didn't really care for Kathryn Hahn as the neighbor's wife, maybe because the part was too ambiguous and underdeveloped. Overall, the situations and arguments can become pretty powerful and charged, and I was left thinking that the source novel must be pretty strong. (Has anyone read it?)
I guess mostly due to Kate, I was often reminded of Little Children, re-worked for the 50's. Both films are about a woman who wants to escape from her normal boring family life in the burbs. The film looks great and I should have guessed that it was lensed by Roger Deakins. But towards the end, skewed close-ups are employed to show the characters' psychological troubles, which I thought wasn't especially effective. And the music was a bit distracting at times (but I'm never much of a fan of Hollywood music cues). The dialogue and acting in their first big argument in their home felt a bit off to me.
Another flaw is how the kids disappear for super-extended periods. In fact, they hardly appear, and when Leo finally comments that it's nice to have breakfast without the kids for a change, I thought, Oh yeah, they are supposed to have two children. I can't even remember by what flimsy pretext the kids are away throughout most of the film.
Two small things seemed out of place. At one point, Leo's workmate refers to "life in the cubicles" or somesuch, and cubicle struck me as too modern a word. Not positive, but it seemed anachronistic. Quick research shows cubicles being first used in the computer industry (Intel) in the mid-60's, while this has a 50's setting (though Leo works for a NYC computer/business machine company, so not far off). The second was the use of the modifier "fucking" which gets thrown around some mid-film. I just don't think people used it then as we do today, and while Leo gets angry, I had doubts he would use it in what used to be called mixed company. And I think the reaction to such language would be much stronger than presented, gasps maybe from the middle-aged woman.
But the period detail is impressive. I liked the clothing and hair styles. There is one scene during a night out where a pregnant character is smoking and drinking martinis. It stood out as grossly irresponsible behavior, and took me a few seconds to realize that back then it's likely nobody would bat an eye. I also liked some of the brief shots at Grand Central Station, which possibly reference some actual 50's films.
Revolutionary Road is definitely worth a viewing and should figure somewhere in the awards.
Thanks for the review Gromit. Regarding your comment about the children missing for long periods of time - perhaps that isn't so unsual - I dont think children were monitored so closely then - they did disappear (into the neighborhood etc) for long stretches without parents wondering aout their whereabouts.
Anyways - i look forward to seeing this film _ I did read the book and liked it very much. I guess I'll have a wait a few weeks till it opens wider. |
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Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 9:56 am |
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Trish wrote: ....Regarding your comment about the children missing for long periods of time - perhaps that isn't so unsual - I dont think children were monitored so closely then - they did disappear (into the neighborhood etc).... Excellent point. My mother would give me a lunch bag and fifty cents, and I'd be gone until supper. We would walk to any one of six movie houses (a quarter) for a triple feature, a newsreel, and cartoons, or take the subway (a nickel) to anywhere in the greater NY area. "If you get lost, ask somebody. If you get followed, run into a bar." |
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Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 10:55 am |
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I really wanna see Slumdog Millionaire *sigh*. |
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Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 11:10 am |
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Roger Ebert on The Spirit. I don't think he liked the film.
http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081223/REVIEWS/812239987
Quote: "The Spirit" is mannered to the point of madness. There is not a trace of human emotion in it. To call the characters cardboard is to insult a useful packing material. The movie is all style -- style without substance, style whirling in a senseless void. The film's hero is an ex-cop reincarnated as an immortal enforcer; for all the personality he exhibits, we would welcome Elmer Fudd.
Of course Elmer Fudd is always welcome.
Quote: The Spirit (Gabriel Macht) narrates his own story with all the introspection of a pro wrestler describing his packaging. The Octopus (Samuel L. Jackson) heroically overacts, devouring the scenery as if following instructions from Gladstone, the British prime minister who attributed his success to chewing each bite 32 times.
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Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 11:58 am |
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I haven't read the Button story by Fitzgerald, but one critic mentioned that it was a nice funny story. He made it sound as if F. Scott was having some fun with his writing. He said of course that the film's tone is not at all like the story. Unfortunately. |
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Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 11:59 am |
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The reviews I have read about The Spirit, have all said virtually the same thing about it as Ebert. |
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