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| seagull |
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jeremy wrote: And you talk like any opinion that digresses from your own are as flies to to an elephant's arse. Your arrogance is truly astounding.
With some justification in what Im arrogating. i at least see the films I have opinions about.
ever heard yourself speak? |
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| ehle64 |
| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 2:47 pm |
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| Gull: It's called cross posting. I missed it while I was posting. Sheesh! |
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| seagull |
| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 2:48 pm |
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| got any meth daddy? |
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| jeremy |
| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 2:48 pm |
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| Of course that was meant to be diverges not digresses. I'm never so stupid as when I'm trying to be clever. |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 2:48 pm |
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Marj wrote: Gull: It's called cross posting. I missed it while I was posting. Sheesh!
sall right...heat of a debarte. |
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| seagull |
| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 2:50 pm |
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jeremy wrote: Of course that was meant to be diverges not digresses. I'm never so stupid as when I'm trying to be clever.
you were right though.
See I set the agenda anybody else's opinion is but digression
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seagull wrote:
Also, Im not at all saying EVERY Hollywood film somehow has an Indian film influence, Im saying when there is something that walks like a duck, etc..., it's likely not explained by the more remote influence(given that this is pop art) but the more proximate one.
I could use exactly the same argument to show Shojay was influenced by Batman Comics. Really, it's possible both were influenced by Scarface, which is a well-known movie. And if you want more proximate influences, Two-Face also appears in Batman Forever and the animated series. An even more proximate influence is The Dark Knight Returns, which is one of the graphic novels that inspired the current incarnation of Batman. There's no reason to think Nolan had to go to Bollywood for inspiration when he had it ready-made in the Batman mythos.
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| ehle64 |
| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 2:53 pm |
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Syd wrote: seagull wrote:
Also, Im not at all saying EVERY Hollywood film somehow has an Indian film influence, Im saying when there is something that walks like a duck, etc..., it's likely not explained by the more remote influence(given that this is pop art) but the more proximate one.
I could use exactly the same argument to show Shojay was influenced by Batman Comics. Really, it's possible both were influenced by Scarface, which is a well-known movie. And if you want more proximate influences, Two-Face also appears in Batman Forever and the animated series. An even more proximate influence is The Dark Knight Returns, which is one of the graphic novels that inspired the current incarnation of Batman. There's no reason to think Nolan had to go to Bollywood for inspiration when he had it already there.
In other words, you're wrong.
Possibly all the above is true, or not. Im speculating about two face's coin trick because I just saw it while simultaneously being in the know of the efforts to rope him in to doing a very high profile bollywood film.
finally unless we hear from the horse's mouth we wont know, I'm just it felt to me like a very possible explaination. |
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ehle64 wrote: UHM, I DON'T DO METH.
s'ok...nobody's perfect. (I dont either. roleplaying). |
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| One interesting thing in The Dark Knight is that we don't know anything for sure about the Joker's origins. He gives us two contradictory stories on the origin of his smile, and is about to give Batman a third but Batman refuses to listen. He has no name, no fingerprints, and appears out of nowhere. He's a man without a past. |
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| So Seagull font of all knowledge, lay on me your thoughts on the influence of Bhangra on British dance music. What's your view of films such as My Beautiful Laundrette or East Is East or Brick Lane that have tried to reflect the realities of Asian life in the UK. Were you charmed or appalled by Bend It Like Beckham. Was Goodness Gracious Me! a breakthrough or pandering? What do you think of Hanif Kureishi? Do you consider Salman Rushdie an Anglo or an Indian writer?. What do you think the audience make-up is at a midweek Bollywood night at your average British multiplex? Gularati, Tamil, Malayali, Bengali, Hindi, Punjabi, Sikh, Pakistani, Bangladeshi...who's winning and who come's bottom of the pile in Britain. Which Indian girls are the easist lay? |
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| jeremy |
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jeremy wrote: So Seagull font of all knowledge, lay on me your thoughts on the influence of Bhangra on British dance music. What's your view of films such as My Beautiful Laundrette or East Is East or Brick Lane that have tried to reflect the realities of Asian life in the UK. Were you charmed or appalled by Bend It Like Beckham. Was Goodness Gracious Me! a breakthrough or pandering? What do you think of Hanif Kureishi? Do you consider Salman Rushdie an Anglo or an Indian writer?. What do you think the audience make-up is at a midweek Bollywood night at your average British multiplex? Gularati, Tamil, Malayali, Bengali, Hindi, Punjabi, Sikh, Pakistani, Bangladeshi...who's winning and who come's bottom of the pile in Britain. Which Indian girls are the easist lay?
Oh there's two kinds. there's one kind that is all anti eu our football hooligans are the greatest, do em all in ,maybe with bare ands kind(including american women that are big fans of this kind of brit nazi.
The other carries the Mark and spencer Lagaan bag, makes go go eyes at me on the underground(but doesn't have the heart to get further unless on a pub crawl in oxford street), has an ancestor she acknowledges in the british army, but will probably end up with a wig with a jag and a nazi past unless I promise(quite falsely) to marry her and take her away to a castle in sikkim I dont have but will get someday....in the future...
this is only in the white ghetto where the queen lives. noone ventures into the immigrant ghettos of london unless they be very brave. even Ive been scammed a couple of times in east ham.
Stephen frears didnt make Indian influenced films he made bloomsbury set influenced films(those always had a "sleeze in our colonioes" component to them...PAassage to India....etc.(you see, with the contraction of the empire, britains colonies have shrunk to london's immigrant ghettos) |
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