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| Joe Vitus |
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| I am. Never have I heard anyone make a Marienbad-Poe connection before. The idea intrigues me. Care to elaborate, Gary? |
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| Nancy |
| Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 10:54 pm |
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marantzo wrote: I thought LYAM was excellent. I've seen it a few times.
For me it was like poetry on film. Having a Poe-like quality.
Whereas I thought it was terminally tedious, and sheer torture to sit through. |
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| seagull |
| Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 11:07 pm |
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philistines!
I thought lyam was very well made and almost as good as testement of orpheus. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 11:22 pm |
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| I just remember Kael's comments on the many, many single-spaced mimeograhed pages she used to receive on Marienbad: "No two alike, no one interesting." I wish I'd rented it back when every Blockbuster had a copy. Now the local outlets don't cary much in the foreign film/art movie genre. I have so far refused to go Netflix or Greencine, so that means I lose out. |
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| Nancy |
| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 1:08 am |
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| As i recall, Marienbad did make it into the Fifty Worst Films of All Time, which is where it belongs. |
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| seagull |
| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 1:20 am |
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| I was watching the tamil bkockbuster sivaji the boss and realized like a bulb went on in my head that the coin toss thing in the new batman film was 'inspired' by the sivaji original...that or dharmendra's coin toss trick in sholay..qhich is an older film.... |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 7:01 am |
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Joe Vitus wrote: I have so far refused to go Netflix or Greencine...
Why, in heaven's name? |
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| whiskeypriest |
| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 7:27 am |
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Nancy wrote: marantzo wrote: I thought LYAM was excellent. I've seen it a few times.
For me it was like poetry on film. Having a Poe-like quality.
Whereas I thought it was terminally tedious, and sheer torture to sit through. |
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| whiskeypriest |
| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 7:28 am |
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seagull wrote: I was watching the tamil bkockbuster sivaji the boss and realized like a bulb went on in my head that the coin toss thing in the new batman film was 'inspired' by the sivaji original...that or dharmendra's coin toss trick in sholay..qhich is an older film.... |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 7:31 am |
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whiskeypriest wrote: Nancy wrote: marantzo wrote: I thought LYAM was excellent. I've seen it a few times.
For me it was like poetry on film. Having a Poe-like quality.
Whereas I thought it was terminally tedious, and sheer torture to sit through. First five minutes, I thought I was watching an interminable Obsession ad. But it took ahold of me shortly after that. One of the few times an unreliable narrator actually works in film. A great movie.
Difference between you and me: I thought the whole movie was an interminable Obsession ad. Of course, when I first saw it, Obsession didn't exist. But you get the point.
One of the most annoying, pretentious, awful movies ever made. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 7:35 am |
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Did anyone except me ever hear the "title tune" from LYAM? Not from the movie, not even based on the music from the movie. Just a terrible ballad based on the title:
Last year at Marienbad
I saw you there in the mist...
And blah blah blah...we kissed.
LOL. True story. |
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| seagull |
| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 7:38 am |
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| sholay predated the two face in batman sivaji is more recent. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:02 am |
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Joe Vitus wrote: I am. Never have I heard anyone make a Marienbad-Poe connection before. The idea intrigues me. Care to elaborate, Gary?
The, for me, poetic narration, (and dialogue) seemed very Poe-like in it's meter, content, and use of the sound and repetition of words and phrases to evoke a mood aside from the mystery of the meaning. Somewhat like The Raven but moreso akin to Lenore (is that the correct name?). I don't find the connection very close for EAP's prose, but find it close to his poetry.
That said, I doubt if Resnais ever had Poe in mind, but who knows? |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:08 am |
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| Two-Face goes back to the 1940s, which I think pre-dates Sholay. A much more likely influence is the George Raft character in the 1932 Scarface, who also tosses a coin, but doesn't use it in the same way as Two-Face. The Raft character was well enough known that the coin flipping (by another character) was used in Some Like It Hot. |
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| seagull |
| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:40 am |
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true but twofaces went out ofcirc in the early fifties.
in pop culture the meme gets attributed to the most recent seminal experience not the oldest known.
scarface is a contendr but I don't remember it much. was it a double head? |
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