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| Nancy |
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bocce wrote: can so many be wrong and you two right???
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| bocce |
| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:30 pm |
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billyweeds wrote:
I thought Streep's first Oscar for Kramer vs. Kramer was undeserved. She cried and cried and cried. This seemed to impress the voters, who nominated Jane Alexander for what was a more interesting performance from the same film but went for Streep in the long run.
i'll bite on this comment. but i tell you she was perfect for THE DEER HUNTER
or SOPHIE'S CHOICE. she even looked polish...juuust kidding, steve...
be that as it may, i have said in the past that americans love to tear down icons for the sake of it. i, personally don't think streep should be one of them. her performances have been exemplary... |
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| bocce |
| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:42 pm |
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bill...
answer me this: what have YOU or joe done that answers streep's apparently mediocre career??? |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:49 pm |
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Of course, that's an irrelevant question. By your standards, none of us has any right to criticize any movie because we've never directed one. Do I need to have a successful career as an architect to say I'm not impressed with Danish modernism?
Streep's dramatic movies are often dull, the sort of "serious" "adult" pictures you can barely stay awake through. I'm thinking of Sophie's Choice and The French Lieutenant's Woman, and Silkwood, in particular. She's not much more interesting than the movies. She was an somnambulistic and personally uninvolving as the movies she made, no matter how convincing her accents and mannerisms. |
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| Ghulam |
| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:23 pm |
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| I don' think I have disliked Streep in any of her movies that I have see. She may be a tad too professional at what she does, but that does not bothe me. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:11 pm |
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| bocce |
| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:52 pm |
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Joe Vitus wrote: Of course, that's an irrelevant question. By your standards, none of us has any right to criticize any movie because we've never directed one. Do I need to have a successful career as an architect to say I'm not impressed with Danish modernism?.
no, what you need are some credentials to have made an INFORMED (and so vastly contrarian) opinion. i'll grant that billy has some but you're an english teacher who spent some time at a performing arts high school. gimme a break...
it's like rod, who writes internet reviews from some backwater town in backwater austrailia dismissing oliver stone with a cavalier one liner: "he sucks"...
on the other hand, you're certainly entitled to ANY opinion, as i am of yours... |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:55 pm |
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| bocce--Sorry, but that post is really lame. No one has to have credentials to criticize or praise a film. You may not agree with the opinion, but that doesn't make it irrelevant. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:57 pm |
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Joe Vitus wrote: Of course, that's an irrelevant question. By your standards, none of us has any right to criticize any movie because we've never directed one. Do I need to have a successful career as an architect to say I'm not impressed with Danish modernism?
Streep's dramatic movies are often dull, the sort of "serious" "adult" pictures you can barely stay awake through. I'm thinking of Sophie's Choice and The French Lieutenant's Woman, and Silkwood, in particular. She's not much more interesting than the movies. She was an somnambulistic and personally uninvolving as the movies she made, no matter how convincing her accents and mannerisms.
I forgot the dullest of them all, The Hours. That wasn't Streep's fault, however. Nicole Kidman won an Oscar for putting on a putty nose. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:05 pm |
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Bocce,
You're full of shit, to put it bluntly. All I have to do is watch her movies and react to them. I don't need a diploma in Theater Arts or a career off-or-on Broadway to do so. I think Nathan Lane sucks. Do I have to have presented at the Tonys for my response to mean something?
It's interesting that you don't make the opposite case: that someone needs to have worked as a professional actor in order to genuinely appreciate her work.
By the way, while I'm an English teacher now, I was an actor from the age of ten to twenty-two. I'm still asked to do shows, but I've chosen not to. It makes no difference. I could be in waste management and my opinion of Streep's work would still be worthwhile. |
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| Marj |
| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:18 pm |
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Joe and Billy,
Guess I like Streep a bit better than you two. What I don't like is when I can see her 'acting'. Which I think maybe why I like her comedic roles more. Too often you can hear her mind working. But in a movie like The Devil Wears Prada she was having a ball and she created a memorable character to boot.
Sometimes she very 'Early Actor's Studio' if you know what I mean. |
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| Syd |
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Marj wrote: Joe and Billy,
Guess I like Streep a bit better than you two. What I don't like is when I can see her 'acting'.
One of the reasons I don't like her in The Hours. (I did like Kidman, Moore and Claire Danes.)
Marj wrote: Which I think maybe why I like her comedic roles more. Too often you can hear her mind working. But in a movie like The Devil Wears Prada she was having a ball and she created a memorable character to boot.
Sometimes she very 'Early Actor's Studio' if you know what I mean.
I really liked her in Adaptation where she had a chance to go way, way over the top. She was having a lot of fun in that one, too. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:34 pm |
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| I rather enjoyed The Hours, over all. It was far from a great movie, but it was as good one. And I think Kidman was better than Billy suggests. |
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| mo_flixx |
| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:50 pm |
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I, myself, have never been much of a Streep fan...
BUT WHERE IS INLA NOW THAT WE NEED HIM???
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| Rod |
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bocce wrote: Joe Vitus wrote: Of course, that's an irrelevant question. By your standards, none of us has any right to criticize any movie because we've never directed one. Do I need to have a successful career as an architect to say I'm not impressed with Danish modernism?.
no, what you need are some credentials to have made an INFORMED (and so vastly contrarian) opinion. i'll grant that billy has some but you're an english teacher who spent some time at a performing arts high school. gimme a break...
it's like rod, who writes internet reviews from some backwater town in backwater austrailia dismissing oliver stone with a cavalier one liner: "he sucks"...
on the other hand, you're certainly entitled to ANY opinion, as i am of yours...
And yet, I'm willing to bet I've had more pieces of film critique and scholarship published and linked than you. |
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