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jeremy
Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:03 am Reply with quote
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oops, wrong forum.

But now that I'm here:

Rafael Nadal:
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We were a few today. Apart from my team there was also Feliciano Lopez and his team together with his girlfriend, his mother and father. We were around 15 and we jumped many times. When Torres scored it was great and the final whistle was a big party and celebration for us. What a moment. Spain deserved it, we deserve it. We were the only big football nation that hasn't won a big title in almost the last 50 years. Spain won and showing a great football.

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And continuing the Spanish them, Pedro Almodóvar has a spat with The Guardian:

http://film.guardian.co.uk/features/featurepages/0,,2287181,00.html

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billyweeds
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Syd--I grant WALL-E all the great things it accomplishes. The flaws occurred when it got into outer space and indulged in long, tired slapstick chases. They did not come close to spoiling the movie's power and beauty, but did manage to make it less than perfect.

Perhaps I was wrong in denying the film its deserved status as an "instant classic," but I don't think the flaws were because it was trying something new. They happened when it fell back into something old.
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lady wakasa
Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 1:11 pm Reply with quote
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I saw Satoshi Kon's Tokyo Godfathers, Perfect Blue, Millenium Actress, and Paranoia Agent over the weekend (plus the big man did a q & a). My faith in moviemaking is feeling really good today.

This is not your kid's anime. I'm thinking if David Lynch ever got into the field, it would look something like this.


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Nancy
Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:26 pm Reply with quote
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lady,

Syd gave me a copy of Millenium Actress a couple of years ago. I;ve also seen Tokyo Godfathers, and liked both of them.

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Syd
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He also directed Paprika, which is stunning.

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Nancy
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Syd wrote:
He also directed Paprika, which is stunning.


Yes, it is. I haven't seen (or even heard of) Paranoia Agent. Lady W, can you give us a few details on that one?

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Nancy wrote:
Syd wrote:
He also directed Paprika, which is stunning.


Yes, it is. I haven't seen (or even heard of) Paranoia Agent. Lady W, can you give us a few details on that one?


I was supposed to leave 4 minutes ago, but really quickly: it's a 13-part television series about an elementary school kid with golden rollerblades and a bent baseball bat who is apparently going around assaulting people. The police have to find him and stop him. (*lol* this is so bare-bones)

GREAT commentary on Japanese society, especially some of the kawaii aspects. I'm still digesting - it's the kind of story that you have to watch several times to pick up on everything - but I think the "Happy Family Planning" episode (#8 ?) was my favorite, especially once you realize what was happening. (DON'T look this up online until you've had a chance to see the episode.)

Also helped put Paprika into perspective.

A lot going on. I'm trying to get a copy, although I think it may be out of print.

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I did get to ask Kon about influences (god, I wish I could've interviewed him), and I think he gave a truthful but stock answer: Kurosawa, the guy who did Akira, and his sound guy. (There have to be tons more.) The sound guy answer probably speaks volumes, because the soundtrack to his movies is very, very distinctive.

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Nancy
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Thanks! I'll watch for it.

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jeremy
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Though I'm slightly embarrassed to admit, I am quite looking forward to seeing Mamma Mia, and this from someone who didnt like the stage musical. In my mind it is becoming the counter programming, cgi free, exuberant, pack-up-your-troubles, Greek holiday, summer fruits confection I didn't reallise I was waiting for. It might be a daft, contrived, flirtatious, feminine, concoction, but all I can say is bring on the guys in speedos and tell me I'm not gay?

And doesn't Meryl Streep look great. In Sex In The City , Sarah Jessica Parker came across as desperate, neurotic and intimidating. At least from the trailer (and yes I am over extrapolating), in Mamma Mia, Meryl Streep in seems sexy, assured and knowing; an earth goddess who's neither a slave to men, fashion or the misguided, must-have-it-all modern way.

Sorry, a bit of sunshine and girls in Summer dresses do this to me...it's probably something to do with spending three-quarters of the year under grey cloud.

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Syd
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Meryl Streep is really good at comedy. She's a surprisingly good singer, too, for an amateur. This is a film that plays to all her strengths. I'll be there.

PS: And you've got Christine Baranski, too. I haven't seen her since Chicago and I love her.

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billyweeds
Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:07 am Reply with quote
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Syd wrote:
Meryl Streep is really good at comedy. She's a surprisingly good singer, too, for an amateur. This is a film that plays to all her strengths. I'll be there.

PS: And you've got Christine Baranski, too. I haven't seen her since Chicago and I love her.


I may be there opening day. Just can't wait. And I didn't just "not like" the stage musical, I loathed it; I came out railing against Broadway and prices and featherheadness and theater-ignorant ABBA fans and the death of the Broadway musical and many other things. But the movie--Gary to the contrary--looks like a mindless, silly, gorgeous, utterly charming delight.

And, yes, Streep looks amazingly sexy, and she--IMO and I many others' O--nails comedy much better than she does drama, at which I consider her quite overrated.

In the trailer, just the way she mouths the lyric "my, my" while seemngly climbing up a mountainside is enormously fetching.

Syd--Why is she an "amateur" singer? What constitutes amateur? She's sung on Broadway, for heaven's sake. And she did a super-professional job as a singer in Postcards from the Edge.

P.S. also to Syd: I am not a Baranski fan. She plays too obviously to a campy in-group and I hate that sort of thing.
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Joe Vitus
Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:35 am Reply with quote
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Postcards so far ranks as the only Streep movie I've ever liked.

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gromit
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I thought In Bruges was fairly good and reasonably likable, but not more. Colin Farrell overplays his part in an almost cartoonish way. I never grew to like his role and came close to getting tired of it at times.

I guess the main problem I had is how seriously are we to take all this. The film is shot in a glowing golden postcard style, and Bruges does look lovely. But then there's the mismatched buddy schtick which is mostly played for minor laughs.

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There were a number of things that rang false. How were these two guys friends from before when they are of different ages and interests? Because the older, chubby, cultured hitman is supposed to have recced Farrell for the job and brought him into the organization. Second, who really cares if a young innocent bystander got in the way (which becomes a major plot point), when rubbing people out is their trade? Also, if this is Farrell's first such job, how come he is such an expert at disarming others and dishing out violence? Another minor quibble is how they would have tracked Farrell down on the train with the couple he'd assaulted ... but that's minor.


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If the film was only jokey and light maybe I wouldn't ask such questions, but the look of the film and the final reel make me think that we are supposed to be engaged with these characters.

And the characters were mostly one-dimensional. I never really got into the film because it all seemed too schematic. I didn't think the dwarf looked much like Dinklage either. And the girl had a pretty lame part used chiefly to drive the plot. The movie within the movie is said to be a pastiche of or homage to another film. And In Bruge certainly seemed to me like it had elements from Tarentino, the Coens, and recent British gangster films (from Sexy Beast to Snatch) thrown together.

I'll have to go back and see what others here said. And I'll see how much it sticks with me. A good, small film, which I'd probably rate over Cassandra's Dream, Woody Allen's rather similar latest offering.

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Joe Vitus
Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:02 am Reply with quote
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Too bad you didn't get into it. I came to like Farrell's character immensely. The movie reminded me of a Graham Greene novel.

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billyweeds
Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:21 am Reply with quote
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Joe Vitus wrote:
Postcards so far ranks as the only Streep movie I've ever liked.


I wouldn't go that far, but it's my favorite by far. I also liked Death Becomes Her, Defending Your Life, The River Wild, and A Cry in the Night.

None of which are generally considered to be among her best work. I think most people are snobbish about Streep.
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