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| Marj |
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I so agree with Mo and Billy. In fact, the only reason I mentioned two or possibly three photos was because those were the only ones I felt worked!
I love the idea of doing this. I'm guessing it was Annie Leibovitz who did the photography? But I wonder if she had control over the casting. Even if she did, so much was just so wrong.
Still it was an ingenious tribute to Hitchcock. |
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| Syd |
| Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 3:54 pm |
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A lot of the BAFTAs look similar to what I expect for the Oscars. Exceptions: There's no way Atonement is going to win Best Picture (it didn't get nominated for director and that's fatal), and I don't expect The Diving Bell and the Butterfly to get Adapted Screenplay; it's between No Country for Old Men and There Will Be Blood and I give the edge to No Country I think Amy Ryan will get Supporting Actress, but Swinton's a good possibility as well.
I wouldn't be all that shocked if George Clooney pulled off an upset for Best Actor, but I'm not expecting it. |
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| ehle64 |
| Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:36 pm |
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Marj wrote: I so agree with Mo and Billy. In fact, the only reason I mentioned two or possibly three photos was because those were the only ones I felt worked!
I love the idea of doing this. I'm guessing it was Annie Leibovitz who did the photography? But I wonder if she had control over the casting. Even if she did, so much was just so wrong.
Still it was an ingenious tribute to Hitchcock.
Wow. people in here amaze me every day in every way. Plus, there's that bandwagon-thingy.
I really wonder if it wasn't ME that brought it up had there been such a backlash. & I really ought not to think that way. . . |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:42 pm |
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ehle64 wrote: Marj wrote: I so agree with Mo and Billy. In fact, the only reason I mentioned two or possibly three photos was because those were the only ones I felt worked!
I love the idea of doing this. I'm guessing it was Annie Leibovitz who did the photography? But I wonder if she had control over the casting. Even if she did, so much was just so wrong.
Still it was an ingenious tribute to Hitchcock.
I really wonder if it wasn't ME that brought it up had there been such a backlash. & I really ought not to think that way. . .
Especially since we really liked the photo essay and if we hadn't we would scarcely have taken the time to talk about what we liked and didn't like about it. It's not as if you were involved with Vanity Fair. Or are you? |
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| Marj |
| Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:39 pm |
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| Trish |
| Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:38 pm |
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ehle64 wrote: In Style has better photos than Vanity Fair??? Have you not seen the Hitchcock Spread they did for this years Hollywood Issue??? In Style????????? 
Party Photos! that's what I meant - I also get Vanity fair and yes I like their covers and photography in general - but I prefer In Style's coverage of parties and of course fashion |
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| jeremy |
| Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:55 am |
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Contrary, to Inlas comment, I felt The BAFTAs contained several surprises. Although Atonement came away with best film, it did less well than expected (not even picking up Best Score), Most of the other honours were shared around with the La Vie En Rose coming away with the biggest haul (4 awards) including a win for Marion Cotillard over home fav Julie Christie. And nobody expected Tilda Swinton to get best supporting actress.
Atonement won't repeat its win for best pic at the Oscars, so reading the tea leaves, I'd suggest that with its BAFTA for Best Direction and two other awards, it is NCfOM that is looking best placed for Hollywood glory. |
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| mo_flixx |
| Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:11 am |
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Film Fest. favorite, OFF THE GRID: LIFE ON THE MESA, was an interesting look at the Gulf War vets, crazies, and others who live only 26 mi. outside of Taos (unnamed in the film).
The community is a combination of types reminiscent of Mad Max, Altamount, Woodstock and who knows what else.
I was expecting to be fascinated and shocked by the film, but because I see these people on an everyday basis...I guess I wasn't. Still, the film will probably be riveting to the non-Taoseno viewer.
These people are compelled by whatever reason to live far from society and its rules and benefits (such as law enforcement, public schooling, medical care, and accessible shopping).
Maine, one resident, has Gulf War syndrome and has chosen not to fight his cancer other than with infrequent trips to the V.A. in distant Albuquerque. Gecko, a "devoted" alcoholic father who has lost custody of his 4 kids, all of whom he'd been "home-schooling" in his pick up shell, finally flips out.
The mamas, the older females, try to provide a stabilizing influence in the community. Another elder, a man who went to Exeter and Princeton as did generations of his family before him, tries to keep the peace with his music and banal wisdom.
One Mama, a former psychiatric nurse, says that as long as there's a steady supply of pot; the Mesans are able to peacefully self-medicate. No pot means they turn to other drugs...with not so peaceful results.
Scenes of the squalor (homes range from jerry-built cabins to decrepit school buses) will shock. Virginia, the 17-yr. old run-away, seems like a sweet kid until she mets a boyfriend twice her age who gets her hooked on crank. Clearly stoned, she ends up begging at Walmart. Later we see her pregnant, seemingly sobered up, and back on the mesa.
Elder Stan raises pigs and, clearly softhearted, takes in teen runaways, like Virginia.
The number of guns on the mesa will astound. Forget about any image of peaceful hippie-types you may have had.
BTW, we learn that this is not the only off-the-grid community. There's at least one other in Hawaii. |
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| mo_flixx |
| Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:48 pm |
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I saw THE DIVING BELL AND THE BUTTERFLY today. In all respects, I found it superior to THE SEA INSIDE.
One flaw I felt at first with DIVING BELL is that there is inconsistency with its point of view. Schnabel makes a point of telling almost the entire movie from the point of view of Bauby _after_ his stroke. You see everything (even the most minute details) thru his eyes or even thru his drugged, incapacitated state. Later we see scenes of his past or fantasy scenes he imagines while working on his novel which he writes thru the blinks of one eye and the help of a speech therapist.
The remaining scenes without Bauby's narration presented from an omniscent view were sometimes distracting. Eventually I accepted them. In some ways, the film reminded me of ATONEMENT where inconsistent storytelling intrudes on the script.
However DIVING BELL beats out THE SEA INSIDE (which I found boring) in the way the film's flashbacks (or are they?) open it up. The fantasies and underwater shots bring a surreal element to the storytelling.
I don't think I'd nominate DIVING BELL or Schnabel for a Blanche, but the movie is one of 2007's best and one which I'd like to see again. |
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| carrobin |
| Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:55 pm |
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| Just got my copy of Vanity Fair, and Liz Smith was right--almost all the women on the cover look like identical dolls. I noticed it myself in the Hitchcock link, but thought the actual cover would be less bland. But really, do all female stars these days really look so much alike? Thank goodness for Tilda Swinton. |
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| Ghulam |
| Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:56 pm |
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| Persepolis is an autobiographical account of an Iranian girl who grows up first under the Shah's government and then under the Ayatollahs. (SPOILERS) Her middle class family then sends her to Vienna for schooling, but she is disillusioned by Western values too. Her return to Iran and marriage to an Iranian prove disastrous, and she leaves Iran again to settle in Paris. It is the story of growing up under oppressive regimes, and of injustices to women. It is an excellent story, but I do not understand why it was considered suitable for animation. The animation itself is very good. In spite of an austere economy of lines and colors, the emotions and moods are beautifully conveyed. Very good movie, but could have been better IMO as a regular unanimated feature. |
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| Earl |
| Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:04 pm |
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mo_flixx wrote:
However DIVING BELL beats out THE SEA INSIDE (which I found boring) in the way the film's flashbacks (or are they?) open it up. The fantasies and underwater shots bring a surreal element to the storytelling.
I'm intrigued by your "or are they" comment referring to the flashbacks. With spoiler warnings if needed, please say what makes you wonder about whether or not they might really be flashback scenes? It never occurred to me that they weren't. |
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| Persepolis is the film version of a graphic book of the story which was drawn in the same style as the film. Doing it as an animated film makes a lot of sense. |
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| mo_flixx |
| Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:14 pm |
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Earl wrote: mo_flixx wrote:
However DIVING BELL beats out THE SEA INSIDE (which I found boring) in the way the film's flashbacks (or are they?) open it up. The fantasies and underwater shots bring a surreal element to the storytelling.
I'm intrigued by your "or are they" comment referring to the flashbacks. With spoiler warnings if needed, please say what makes you wonder about whether or not they might really be flashback scenes? It never occurred to me that they weren't.
The scene I had in mind was
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the one with the girlfriend and their trip to Lourdes. Maybe you'd consider it a fantasy, but it seemed heavily rooted in reality. |
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| mo_flixx |
| Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:15 pm |
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carrobin wrote: Just got my copy of Vanity Fair, and Liz Smith was right--almost all the women on the cover look like identical dolls. I noticed it myself in the Hitchcock link, but thought the actual cover would be less bland. But really, do all female stars these days really look so much alike? Thank goodness for Tilda Swinton.
They've had covers like this for the last couple of years. I'm not sure why they picked pink and white this year tho'. |
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