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Syd
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:21 pm Reply with quote
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billyweeds wrote:
tirebiter wrote:
Billy: Aw c'mon, NbyNW is Hitchcock's BEST FILM! It's funny, it's thrilling, it's sexy, it's wonderful-- it's ur-hitchcock, it's echt-Hitchcock... it's his BEST FILM!!


It was always fifth on my list, after Rear Window, Psycho, Strangers on a Train, and Vertigo. And it probably still is fifth, but a lot under the other four, and maybe under The Lady Vanishes.
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I'd put Shadow of a Doubt and Frenzy ahead of it, too. Maybe Notorious as well.

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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:39 pm Reply with quote
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billyweeds wrote:
You may or may not remember that Rear Window is my favorite movie, period. And it holds up beautifully, viewing after viewing after viewing.

Actually, I did remember that when I was posting, but also was posting because it's my favorite of Hitchcock's work.

Which reminds me, I need to go add Disturbia to my Netflix list. Still curious to see how the movie will work, based on it's RW theme.

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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:45 pm Reply with quote
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I saw Disturiba and just bought it for my daughter. I'm curious to see what you think. It wasn't my cup of tea.

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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:59 pm Reply with quote
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Jynx wrote:
I saw Disturiba and just bought it for my daughter. I'm curious to see what you think. It wasn't my cup of tea.

I will certainly post my thoughts once I view it.

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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 12:06 am Reply with quote
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Mr. Brooks was quite the thriller, with some interesting twists, a decent performance by Dane Cook and a really twisted, but very well done job by Kevin Costner.

The performance and character that I didn't connect with at all and thought was just weak was Demi Moore as the cop chasing down the killer. There was so much lacking anything interesting with her character and several large holes in what she did *SPOLIERmost of her divorce discussion with everyone, the idea of her breaking into the apartment when it was obvious no one was there, just to name a coupleEND SPOILER*

But I'm glad I watched it. Especially for Kevin Costner's performance.


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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 12:26 am Reply with quote
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Jynx wrote:
RW was one of the few films I thought Stewart was actually a man's man in. He was hot in that, not a soppy knobhead.


Stewart and Grace Kelly were one of the hottest couplings in cinema history. Neither of them was anywhere near as sexy with anyone else. She was glamorous and he was earthy. It was a romantic team made in heaven.

Disturbia was okay but nothing more.
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Gromit - I'm watching A Century of Light and Shadows, and they're talking about Cantonese vs Mandarin ('m guessing it's Mandarin) movies. Can you explain the difference? Right now it seems like Cantonese = PRC and Mandarin = Taiwan / HK films.

Thx.

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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:40 am Reply with quote
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lady wakasa wrote:
Gromit - I'm watching A Century of Light and Shadows, and they're talking about Cantonese vs Mandarin ('m guessing it's Mandarin) movies. Can you explain the difference? Right now it seems like Cantonese = PRC and Mandarin = Taiwan / HK films.

Thx.

Cantonese = HK
Mandarin = PRC + Taiwan


Cantonese is the language spoken in southern Guangdong (aka Canton) Province and adjacent Hong Kong. One reason that HK was able to churn out so many films was because there are 60 million (today's figure) Cantonese speakers in Guangdong just across the border. And there was little competition, as the PRC was intent on making films in Mandarin, not in regional dialects.

Mandarin is the national language of Mainland China and Taiwan (which up til recently was run by the Nationalists who fled the mainland after the 1949 Communist "Liberation").

The Fujian (the province across from Taiwan) dialect is also big in everyday life in Taiwan, but not likely much of a player in the film industry. Just like the films made in Shanghai were all in Mandarin, and did not use Shanghai dialect.


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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:51 am Reply with quote
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chillywilly wrote:
Jynx wrote:
I saw Disturiba and just bought it for my daughter. I'm curious to see what you think. It wasn't my cup of tea.

I will certainly post my thoughts once I view it.


I liked it a lot. Seems like Jynx and I never agree on films. She's got lousy taste in men too. Laughing
Jynx
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 9:20 am Reply with quote
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I liked it a lot. Seems like Jynx and I never agree on films. She's got lousy taste in men too.


Yes, I do you soppy knobhead. I actually think they've formed a club or sumpin "Jynx's Rejects" ... Laughing

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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:44 am Reply with quote
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gromit wrote:
lady wakasa wrote:
Gromit - I'm watching A Century of Light and Shadows, and they're talking about Cantonese vs Mandarin ('m guessing it's Mandarin) movies. Can you explain the difference? Right now it seems like Cantonese = PRC and Mandarin = Taiwan / HK films.

Thx.

Cantonese = HK
Mandarin = PRC + Taiwan


Cantonese is the language spoken in Guangdong (aka Canton) and adjacent Hong Kong. One reason that HK was able to churn out so many films was because there are 60 million (today's figure) Cantonese speakers in Guangdong just across the border. And there was little competition, as the PRC was intent on making films in Mandarin, not in regional dialects.

Mandarin is the national language of Mainland China and Taiwan (which up til recently was run by the Nationalists who fled the mainland after the 1949 Communist "Liberation").

The Fujian (the province across from Taiwan) dialect is also big in everyday life in Taiwan, but not likely much of a player in the film industry. Just like the films made in Shanghai were all in Mandarin, and did not use Shanghai dialect.


Yeah, got that wrong %^o...

I should've figured some of that out - Mandarin was the language of the emperors as well - but I just forget a lot these days. Plus the documentary's a little choppy, so it's a little hard to follow along at points.

So far, it seems that the Cantonese films were schlocky, and the Mandarin films were better-made, etc. It's also a little difficult to figure everything out, because my understanding is the film center was really Shanghai, but this documentary is supposed to focus on Hong Kong. So the focus wanders (plus using different narrators every 3-4 minutes doesn't help). But I've only watched one episode so far.


BTW, have you read the book that came out in the late 1980s / early 1990s arguing that the Communists are basically another dynasty? It was actually very good.

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Jynx
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Did anyone, on a whim, see Mr. Woodcock? I watched it last night and laughed till I PIMP's. A true Billy Bob movie if I ever saw one, he seems to have slid down the hill since his amazing performances in SB and Monster's Ball but he has found his comedic edge.

Ditto Susan Sarandon, it's a pity to see great talents reduced to constant slapstick or one-on-a-shelf videos you have to look for with a sniffing dog.

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There is rumor of a Bad Santa sequel. Sounds (to me) unnecessary but potentially laff-worthy.
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gromit
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 12:21 pm Reply with quote
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Jynx wrote:
Did anyone, on a whim, see Mr. Woodcock? I watched it last night and laughed till I PIMP's. A true Billy Bob movie if I ever saw one, he seems to have slid down the hill since his amazing performances in SB and Monster's Ball but he has found his comedic edge.

Yikes. The dvd cover has been giving me Dodgeball flashbacks. Looks full of aw.
I'd give Superbad a try first .

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chillywilly
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 12:42 pm Reply with quote
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tirebiter wrote:
There is rumor of a Bad Santa sequel. Sounds (to me) unnecessary but potentially laff-worthy.

I would go see that, especially if they had Billy Bob on board again. I laughed my ass off on that first one... it was so bad, it was good.

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