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Marilyn
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:55 pm Reply with quote
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Fontaine is a strange case. She was amazing in Rebecca but otherwise her career was very undistinguished, including her undeserved Oscar for Suspicion--interestingly, the only Oscar-winning performance ever directed by Alfred Hitchcock. Is that weird or what?


In defense of Joan Fontaine: http://selfstyledsiren.blogspot.com/search/label/Joan%20Fontaine

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Syd
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marantzo wrote:
Whatever happened to her, is she still alive?


If you mean Françoise Sagan, she died in 2004. If you mean Joan Fontaine, she's still alive and turned 90 last October. Her sister, Olivia de Havilland is also alive and turned 91 last July, and last I knew was still pretty sharp. Don't know how Fontaine's holding up. Good genes in that family.


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marantzo
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I meant Sagan, and now that you mention it, I remember when she died. Fontaine, I thought was dead. Way to go Joan!
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I wonder if they still don`t talk to each other.
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Marilyn wrote:
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Fontaine is a strange case. She was amazing in Rebecca but otherwise her career was very undistinguished, including her undeserved Oscar for Suspicion--interestingly, the only Oscar-winning performance ever directed by Alfred Hitchcock. Is that weird or what?


In defense of Joan Fontaine: http://selfstyledsiren.blogspot.com/search/label/Joan%20Fontaine


I've never seen Letter from an Unknown Woman, and really should. I've always found Fontaine extremely attractive as a woman--much more so than her sister, the reportedly not-very-nice Olivia De Havilland.

Olivier (as opposed to Olivia) sounds like a real jerk. The stories about him and both Fontaine and Dustin Hoffman are repulsive to me.

I still think it's ironic that Fontaine was the only Oscarwinner from a Hitchcock film. What with Ingrid Bergman, Jimmy Stewart, Grace Kelly, Cary Grant, Janet Leigh, et al--it's Fontaine in Suspicion who wins? Now if it were for Rebecca, no problem.
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billyweeds wrote:


I still think it's ironic that Fontaine was the only Oscarwinner from a Hitchcock film. What with Ingrid Bergman, Jimmy Stewart, Grace Kelly, Cary Grant, Janet Leigh, et al--it's Fontaine in Suspicion who wins? Now if it were for Rebecca, no problem.


Maybe they were trying to keep Olivia de Havilland from getting it. She was up that year, too. De Havilland did deserve her Oscar for The Heiress. I haven't seen To Each His Own (De Havilland's other Oscar) and I don't know if I've seen Suspicion. I have, of course, seen Rebecca several times, including a Masterpiece Theatre remake.

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Olivier (as opposed to Olivia) sounds like a real jerk. The stories about him and both Fontaine and Dustin Hoffman are repulsive to me.


He was nice to me. Laughing
Marilyn
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:08 pm Reply with quote
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Billy - I think you would really appreciate this article at Cinema Styles. I think it's very astute about Oscar's cock-ups:

http://cinemastyles.blogspot.com/2008/01/oscars-odd-behavior.html

(Sorry about all the links lately, but there's such good stuff out there in the blogosphere.)

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Marilyn wrote:
Billy - I think you would really appreciate this article at Cinema Styles. I think it's very astute about Oscar's cock-ups:

http://cinemastyles.blogspot.com/2008/01/oscars-odd-behavior.html

(Sorry about all the links lately, but there's such good stuff out there in the blogosphere.)


The Whitmore thing is odd, but I wouldn't call it a cock-up. Not like High Society getting nominated for Best Story in 1956. Not the musical mind you (which wasn't eligible anyway), but the Bowery Boys film with the same title. The theory is that voters saw High Society was eligible but didn't realize it was a different film. Or maybe a lot of voters liked the Bowery Boys. The nomination was withdrawn, darn it.

And Harold Russell actually WON two Oscars for the same performance, but one was a Special Oscar.

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billyweeds wrote:
Loved Lone State and Limbo. Absolutely loathed the "breakthrough" film Return of the Secaucus Seven, where the neo-Cassavetes improvisations were so amateurish as to be painful. It was unofficially remade and improved tenfold by Lawrence Kasdan as The Big Chill.


Great of you to mention the mostly unseen Limbo - which I enjoyed very much. I had no idea Mary Elizabeth Mastroniani had such a wonderful voice and David Straitharn was at his sexy best, loved his character
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Trish
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I just TiVO'd Limbo the other day. Can't wait to revisit it. I've met John Sayles. Do I like his films, hell yeah. You people and your bandwagons are sickening.


thanks to you too
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ehle64 wrote:
I just TiVO'd Limbo the other day. Can't wait to revisit it. I've met John Sayles. Do I like his films, hell yeah. You people and your bandwagons are sickening.


Hooray for Wade.

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My favorite John Sayles movie was Alligator.

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Kurosawa's High And Low is, quite simply, mighty cinema.

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Rod wrote:
Kurosawa's High And Low is, quite simply, mighty cinema.

Great.
Why?
It seemed rather straight-forward.
What did I miss?

I loved Stray Dog.
And have Drunken Angel near the top of my to-watch mountain.

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