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| billyweeds |
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mo_flixx wrote: gromit wrote: The Van Gogh original was boring.
So I've been holding off on the Buscemi-Miller re-make. Also, just seems like another plot device to couple an older ugly male with a young hot female. The screenwriter's fnatasy.
To ehle --
I preferred Sienna in "Interview" to "Factory Girl." She's good in both, tho'.
gromit -
Your comments are oversimplified. Buscemi isn't what I'd call an ugly male, and Miller is much more than just a "young hot female." She looks a bit jaded with dark roots - perfect for her character who almost could allude to Britney S. or Pamela Anderson. Buscemi comes across as surprisingly sympathetic. They are a good match for each other.
This 84-minute movie _could_ have been boring, but I didn't find it so. Buscemi keeps the camera moving. I didn't realize he's an accomplished director, but he's done a lot of TV ("Sopranos). Plot twists, thrown in on a regular basis, keep the film from becoming static.
Buscemi is a wonderful director. His first feature, Trees Lounge, is one of the most acute portraits of an alcoholic on film. (He plays the alcoholic himself.)
He is, however, and with all due respect, the epitome of an "ugly male." (Which is not to say he's unattractive. I think he is even a little bit sexy.)
I've also heard from many people that he's one of the nicest guys in the business.
His name, btw, is pronounced "Boo-se-my," NOT "Boo-she-my." |
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| gromit |
| Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:44 am |
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billyweeds wrote:
Buscemi is a wonderful director. His first feature, Trees Lounge, is one of the most acute portraits of an alcoholic on film. (He plays the alcoholic himself.)
He also directed Lonesome Jim (2005) which was a fairly good film about family dysfunction. I'm sure I commented on it a ways back, but don't think many here have seen it. |
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| mo_flixx |
| Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 3:08 pm |
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billyweeds wrote: mo_flixx wrote: gromit wrote: The Van Gogh original was boring.
So I've been holding off on the Buscemi-Miller re-make. Also, just seems like another plot device to couple an older ugly male with a young hot female. The screenwriter's fnatasy.
To ehle --
I preferred Sienna in "Interview" to "Factory Girl." She's good in both, tho'.
gromit -
Your comments are oversimplified. Buscemi isn't what I'd call an ugly male, and Miller is much more than just a "young hot female." She looks a bit jaded with dark roots - perfect for her character who almost could allude to Britney S. or Pamela Anderson. Buscemi comes across as surprisingly sympathetic. They are a good match for each other.
This 84-minute movie _could_ have been boring, but I didn't find it so. Buscemi keeps the camera moving. I didn't realize he's an accomplished director, but he's done a lot of TV ("Sopranos). Plot twists, thrown in on a regular basis, keep the film from becoming static.
Buscemi is a wonderful director. His first feature, Trees Lounge, is one of the most acute portraits of an alcoholic on film. (He plays the alcoholic himself.)
He is, however, and with all due respect, the epitome of an "ugly male." (Which is not to say he's unattractive. I think he is even a little bit sexy.)
I've also heard from many people that he's one of the nicest guys in the business.
His name, btw, is pronounced "Boo-se-my," NOT "Boo- she-my."
Let me clarify how I was using "ugly." I'd have to agree that he is physically on the ugly side, especially when you consider the whacko parts he plays. I give him a 3 or 4 out of 10.
But I interpreted gromit's post to mean ugly in the sense that his personality was ugly in INTERVIEW. It's really not. He comes across as an average human, warts and all. No different from most people, IMO. He has a lot of psychological scars which I do not interpret as "ugly."
And he's actually much less ugly physically than usual - not as bug-eyed with the prominent teeth, etc.
So I hope that I've successfully clarified the difference between physically ugly and psychologically ugly for billy and gromit. |
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| ehle64 |
| Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 3:13 pm |
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| and then Charlize Theron wins the Oscar for being "ugly". . . |
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| mo_flixx |
| Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 3:33 pm |
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ehle64 wrote: and then Charlize Theron wins the Oscar for being "ugly". . .
That's different. She transformed herself from model beautiful to gaining lbs., dentures, bad hair, etc. for a part.
Buscemi looks that way naturally. No Oscar pts. for that! |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:35 pm |
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Marj wrote: Fortunately finding a photo of Ken Russell wasn't terribly difficult. But with the exception of the hair, I don't see any resemblance.
PS. I still want to see his version of The Boy Friend.
It's awful. My ex and I walked out, unable to take the punishment anymore. |
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| ehle64 |
| Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:44 pm |
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| i'm playing guitar hero on my sofa -- sorry, had 2 confess. |
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| jeremy |
| Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:57 pm |
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| Without my girls, I am just so outta touch. Wondering if it was a euphemism for...God-knows-what, I googled "playing guitar hero". Pah! It's a video game. |
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| Syd |
| Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 7:08 pm |
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jeremy wrote: Without my girls, I am just so outta touch. Wondering if it was a euphemism for...God-knows-what, I googled "playing guitar hero". Pah! It's a video game.
If it's any consolation, I thought the same thing. |
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| ehle64 |
| Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 7:18 pm |
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jeremy wrote: Without my girls, I am just so outta touch. Wondering if it was a euphemism for...God-knows-what, I googled "playing guitar hero". Pah! It's a video game.
It is and it's terribly sad. Apparently, there are directions. |
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| mo_flixx |
| Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:54 pm |
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marantzo wrote: Marj wrote: Fortunately finding a photo of Ken Russell wasn't terribly difficult. But with the exception of the hair, I don't see any resemblance.
PS. I still want to see his version of The Boy Friend.
It's awful. My ex and I walked out, unable to take the punishment anymore.
I also remember it as a stinker. Ken Russell went from one of FAVORITE directors to someone whose movies I didn't care much about. The same happened with Jean-Luc Goddard (still a huge favorite for his early to mid '60's films) but after that - forgeddaboudit. |
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| ehle64 |
| Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:12 pm |
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| i have no idea what MOan is complaining about, but, Guitar Hero is certifiably not for the criminally sane. I'm getting ready 2 play a person on trial and life is DEFinitely imitating art. |
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| mo_flixx |
| Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:27 pm |
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gromit et al -
The extras on INTERVIEW give a lot of insight into the differences between the VanGogh and Buscemi versions. Buscemi used a lot of the late VanGogh's crew on his version.
The _real_ Katya (sp?) and the real Theo looked very different from Miller and Buscemi - so I could see that the original film would have a completely different vibe. |
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| Marj |
| Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:56 am |
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billyweeds wrote: Marj wrote: Fortunately finding a photo of Ken Russell wasn't terribly difficult. But with the exception of the hair, I don't see any resemblance.
PS. I still want to see his version of The Boy Friend.
I look more like the guy on the left, actually. But in Rex Reed's defense, he was talking about Ken Russell many years ago.
Thank God! He just looks so angry. Or mean. Or something. Certainly not like you.
Gary and Mo -- I'm still curious. I just can't help myself. And I hear it may be coming out on DVD sometime soon. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:58 am |
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Marj, there is one very good thing about The Boy Friend (sorry Billy I can't remember if it is supposed to be one word or two), and that's the very tall wonderful dancer who's name escapes my old brain, but even he can't save the overdone mugging and extreme close-ups and exaggerated effects and the actual assault on the audience. Ken Russell is as subtle as a garish pale of puke in your face.
I hope you see it, I'd be curious as to how you'd rate it. I endured it for about 30-45 minutes. |
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