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billyweeds
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 6:55 pm Reply with quote
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Happy Thanksgiving, everyone!!!
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Nancy
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 12:02 am Reply with quote
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Like billy said, HAPPY THANKSGIVING!

I will probably not be having turkey but something else, likely ham. After two failed attempts at deep-frying a turkey (the weather didn't cooperate -- too cold out on my friend's patio, so the oil didn't get hot enough) meaning that we had vegetables for lunch while the turkey cooked indoors in the oven, the host has sworn that he will never cook a turkey again. Whatever we have, it will be good, though.

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lady wakasa
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 2:02 am Reply with quote
Joined: 21 May 2004 Posts: 5911 Location: Beyond the Blue Horizon
Last night I saw the German film Fanfares of Love, Billy Wilder's inspiration for Some Like It Hot. Even though SLIH, blessed with a genius director and an inspired cast, deserves every kudo it's ever gotten, it's clear that the source material is golden and works just as well in deutshe, even with some detail changes. It'd be great to find the French Fanfares L'amour, which seems to be the first version of the movie.

HT to all those set to partake.

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marantzo
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 9:17 am Reply with quote
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Happy Thanksgiving, to all the fine and intelligent, though fractious, Americans on our site.
carrobin
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:11 am Reply with quote
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Fractious? Who ya callin' fractious!

Thanksgiving felicitations to all, even Canadians whose Thanksgiving was a while ago. (I'm having dinner with a friend at a restaurant, and trying to figure out how to close my ears, because she's a Republican.)
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mo_flixx
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:21 am Reply with quote
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Hey y'all--

Go see a _current_ film!

I saw "Enchanted" yesterday, and it's lots of fun. There's plenty of amusing stuff for grownups. And Amy Adams couldn't be any more perfect for the part of the would-be princess Giselle.
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marantzo
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:22 am Reply with quote
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mo_flixx wrote:
Hey y'all--

Go see a _current_ film!

I saw "Enchanted" yesterday, and it's lots of fun. There's plenty of amusing stuff for grownups. And Amy Adams couldn't be any more perfect for the part of the would-be princess Giselle.


I liked the preview.
jeremy
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 2:17 pm Reply with quote
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I hated it. Done before, cute for kids, knowing bits for adults. Another deconstructed fairy tale, full of wisecracks; where's the charm, where's the subtext, where's the underlying psychological resonance. Why are American's so crap at this stuff. Can't wait for The Golden Compass, even the bowlderised version it seems we're gonna be served up. Next time I bump in Chris Weiz, I'm gonna give him a piece of my mind.

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marantzo
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 5:13 pm Reply with quote
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I wouldn't get too excited about the release of The Golden Compass. To me it looks like a stinker. I may be wrong.
carrobin
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:53 pm Reply with quote
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The ads for The Golden Compass look wonderful, but I can't help but wonder how they're going to manage all three of the books. That first one was terrific, leaving me hanging and prowling Barnes & Noble looking desperately for the sequel, The Subtle Knife. But the last book of the trilogy went way off the rails, managing to be both boring and outrageous, admittedly an unusual accomplishment.

And I wonder even while reading the first book why the series is marketed for children. I'd have been traumatized for life if I'd read such wildly heretical stuff at a young age (admittedly, my young age was mostly during the buttoned-up fifties). Considering how some parents get all het up about Harry Potter, Pullman's fiction will probably generate some high-decibel responses.

I'm really looking forward to see the daemons, though.
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jeremy
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 8:29 pm Reply with quote
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I think Pulman deliberately upped the ante for each book in the His Dark Materials trilogy, the final instalment, The Amber Spyglass is openly athiest and anti-clerical. Perhpas he wnated to entice the readers in close, before sliding the stilletto between the ribs of their religiousity.

I can just about see how New Line and Chris Wietz can gloss over the anti-clerical aspects in the first book by turning The Magisterium into some sort of generic authortarian government. However, it will be almost impossible to maintain this position for the subsequent films without critically undermining them.

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jeremy
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 8:33 pm Reply with quote
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I share some of Gary's misgivings about the film, but I'm willing to give it a good deal of leeway just on account of its ambition.

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carrobin
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 8:45 pm Reply with quote
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Well, the first book could make a super movie, if it's done right, and it looks good in the ads. The last book--well, it swings between sci-fi and anti-theological fantasy, and I found it very disappointing. (Even Neil Gaiman or Joss Whedon might have problems making that work.) The second book isn't bad, and probably could make a good film.

I still wonder what kind of daemon I'd have. A hedgehog, maybe.
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jeremy
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 11:07 pm Reply with quote
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It's very easy to opt for a glamorous animal such as a big cat. As a man I think I'm more psychologically inclined to opt for a carnivore, if only a little one. What am I? Though I might be a bit of a mouse, I think I'd prefer a daemon that could keep up or dash ahead rather than one that has to perch on my shoulder or poke out of my pocket. I will go for a...lynx..no too obvious...a pine marten.

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tirebiter
Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 9:10 am Reply with quote
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My daemon is a naked mole rat.

A happy holiday to all! Pre-Ho Ho Hos to everyone!
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