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| mo_flixx |
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marantzo wrote: There is a painting depicting THE RAPE OF EUROPA and with that title, I believe. By David maybe? Or maybe by one of the Classicist rather than a Neo-Classicists.
Can you picture Hitler in place of the Taliban trying to free and cart off those magnificent huge Buddhist sculptures instead of blowing them up?
There are 2 "Rape of Europa's" that come up on Google. One is by Titian; the other by Guido Reni for a 17C. Polish king. I will check the book to see which applies.
BTW according to the film, Hitler was into collecting bad paintings of Aryan types. Some of this looked like commercial art, as opposed to fine art. The paintings recall what movie posters for some of the German mountain films might have looked like. Goering was the one who wanted all the old masters. Both are portrayed as uncultivated types who were simply very acquisitive.
Much is made of Hitler's being a mediocre art student and jealous of the more prominent Jewish (decadent) art figures of the time. Some of his landscapes are shown in the film. Actually his watercolors were what I'd call passable. |
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| Syd |
| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 8:40 pm |
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| yambu |
| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:03 pm |
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Syd wrote: ...They [Washington and Crowe] finally do meet during Lucas's deposition about half an hour before the end, and I like these scenes a lot....
Someone here said the film had no forward thrust. It had plenty for me. Russell Crowe was intrepid in his quest, and - SPOILER - his tracking Washington, in his pimp coat, to the Ali/Fraser fight is a perfect payoff. END SPOILER. Anyway, the two leads are all the reason one needs to catch this one.
Fans of The Wire have to be delighted to see Stringer Bell (Idris Elba) show up here as the thug Tango. |
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| mo_flixx |
| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:33 pm |
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Syd wrote: Hitler had a very hard time drawing people. He wasn't bad at buildings and landscapes.
The film shows a couple of watercolors of buildings - European street scenes without people. |
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| lshap |
| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:34 pm |
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Billy - I can't remember being so toally in synch with you in the 10 years (10 years!) we've known each other. Saw No Country For Old Men just last night and was spellbound by the intensity. I know exactly which Hitchcock-esque scene you were thinking of - damn, that was great filmmaking!
Bardem and Brolin are award candidates, and I further agree with you that this year is turning out a spectacular crop of films. There's another bloody one coming up with Daniel Day Lewis that looks great. |
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| yambu |
| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:48 pm |
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Syd wrote: Hitler had a very hard time drawing people. He wasn't bad at buildings and landscapes. |
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:12 pm |
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Hitler did a nude sketch of his niece Geli Raubal which appears about two-thirds of the way down this page. He may well have had an affair with her; in any case she committed suicide in her early 20s.
http://schikelgruber.net/sexbis.html
I've never seen the self-portrait. |
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:23 pm |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:23 am |
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Iraq War Does Lousy Box Office
“Lions for Lambs,” the new Robert Redford/Tom Cruise movie about the Iraq War, disappointed at the box office this weekend, finishing fourth, according to boxofficemojo.com – behind “Bee Movie,” “American Gangster” and “Fred Claus.”
“Lions for Lambs” was hurt by lukewarm reviews, but it’s hardly the only Iraq War/war on terror movie to do disappointing business.
The well-reviewed “In the Valley of Elah” — which stars Tommy Lee Jones and Charlize Theron — about a father investigating his son’s death in Iraq, has also done abysmal box office.
“Rendition,” the much-hyped movie about the CIA’s policy of handling the interrogation of terrorism suspects, has also been a dud.
It’s not that moviegoers are only looking for happy escapism. “American Gangster,” a bloody crime drama, was #1 a week ago, and remained strong this weekend. “No Country for Old Men,” an extraordinarily violent tale of drug dealers and lawmen in the West, had the highest per-screen average this past weekend.
If ticket sales are any indication, the American people do not merely want to get out of Iraq — they don’t even want to spend some time at the multiplex thinking about it. |
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| Syd |
| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:48 am |
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Michael Clayton hasn't run away with the box office, but it has legs. It's #11 six weeks after release. It's still below $40 million, but I expect it to get a bunch of Oscar nominations and should end up around $100,000,000. Not bad considering it relies on brains for its drama rather than car chases. If you prefer car chases, The Bourne Ultimatum has topped $200,000,000. (Fortunately it's also a good film.)
American Gangster's already topped $80 million at the box office and should at least double that before it's done. It didn't drop that much over the weekend. I wouldn't be shocked if it tops $200,000,000. It may get Oscar nominations for the two leads and Ruby Dee.
In the Valley of Elah has already dropped out of the top 50. Ouch. |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 3:01 am |
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The highest percentage film at Rottentomatoes's top 50 is Sea Monsters: A Prehistoric Adventure, which has 100% on only 11 reviews. It does sound spectacular, though, and hopefully it will show up on DVD before the Blanches. It's exactly the kind of film that makes my jaw drop.
The highest ranked film that anyone has seen is Ratatouille at 97%. No Country for Old Men is third at 95%. That's impressive.
At the bottom: Good Luck Chuck at 2%. That's pretty impressive in its own right. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 8:31 am |
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Syd wrote: Michael Clayton hasn't run away with the box office, but it has legs. It's #11 six weeks after release. It's still below $40 million, but I expect it to get a bunch of Oscar nominations and should end up around $100,000,000. Not bad considering it relies on brains for its drama rather than car chases. If you prefer car chases, The Bourne Ultimatum has topped $200,000,000. (Fortunately it's also a good film.)
American Gangster's already topped $80 million at the box office and should at least double that before it's done. It didn't drop that much over the weekend. I wouldn't be shocked if it tops $200,000,000. It may get Oscar nominations for the two leads and Ruby Dee.
In the Valley of Elah has already dropped out of the top 50. Ouch.
Michael Clayton is a hit simply because it's an amazing movie. The title is bland, the genre hard to pin down. But it's just plain terrific.
In the Valley of Elah isn't good enough to overcome a not-just-bad but terrible title that makes it sound like an educational Bible film.
The great Ruby Dee may get a nomination just by dint of being the great Ruby Dee. Her role is near-nondescript save for one pretty good scene. |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 9:02 am |
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Great IMDb trivia for NCFOM:
The Coen Brothers used a 1890's era photo of a brothel patron as a model for Anton Chigurh's hair style. Looking at its weirdness after getting the hair cut, Javier Bardem said "Oh no, now I won't get laid for the next two months". |
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| mo_flixx |
| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 9:45 am |
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Ghulam wrote: Iraq War Does Lousy Box Office
“Lions for Lambs,” the new Robert Redford/Tom Cruise movie about the Iraq War, disappointed at the box office this weekend, finishing fourth, according to boxofficemojo.com – behind “Bee Movie,” “American Gangster” and “Fred Claus.”
“Lions for Lambs” was hurt by lukewarm reviews, but it’s hardly the only Iraq War/war on terror movie to do disappointing business.
The well-reviewed “In the Valley of Elah” — which stars Tommy Lee Jones and Charlize Theron — about a father investigating his son’s death in Iraq, has also done abysmal box office.
“Rendition,” the much-hyped movie about the CIA’s policy of handling the interrogation of terrorism suspects, has also been a dud.
It’s not that moviegoers are only looking for happy escapism. “American Gangster,” a bloody crime drama, was #1 a week ago, and remained strong this weekend. “No Country for Old Men,” an extraordinarily violent tale of drug dealers and lawmen in the West, had the highest per-screen average this past weekend.
If ticket sales are any indication, the American people do not merely want to get out of Iraq — they don’t even want to spend some time at the multiplex thinking about it.
I read a different article which made exactly the same point last week.
This is what I mean about "preaching to the choir." |
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| mo_flixx |
| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 9:54 am |
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Amazing...the self-portrait is so much better than the nude.
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I perused the book _Rape of Europa_ last night. The Hitler drawings of buildings (in the film) are not included.
Also, I couldn't find any reference to which "Rape of Europa" painting might be referred to.
Fascinating, however, are the photos of paintings never recovered after WWII. The film had a long list of these. Interesting to contemplate if they will ever be found. |
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