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whiskeypriest
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 12:31 pm Reply with quote
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chillywilly wrote:
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Ah. Three Kings I also quite liked, and Being John Malkovich was a good idea that fell a little short in the execution. The rest....

I am open to reevaluating American Beauty, once I get the notion of what a lucky bastard Mendes is out of my head. I dislike Matrix, loathed Fight Club and haven't seen the others. Note that I haven't seen a David Lynch film since Blue Velvet and do not intend to see another.

So you like Spike Jonze in front of the camera but not behind it?

As for not liking Fight Club, there's a lot of people that didn't like it. Do you like other Fincher films?

No Lynch since Blue Velvet? Not even Lost Highway?
I dislike Se7en even more. I have resisted seeing Zodiac because Fincher directed it.

I liked Adaptation better than Being John Malkovich. They are both pretty good films. Haven't seen anything he's directed that did not have Charlie Kaufman attaced as a screenwriter.

As for David Lynch, I just realized that he makes movies for people other than me.

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Rod......I like the way you group a director's work. Why didn't you include Gerry in the Van Sant group?


Ain't seen it. Yet.

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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 12:47 pm Reply with quote
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I dislike Se7en even more. I have resisted seeing Zodiac because Fincher directed it.


Whiskey, you are a man of great wisdom. As you may know, I put Fincher on the entredit list after Seven.

Betsy, I know that there were many many 'women's' movies in the 40's, but I sort of liked a lot of them. They were entertaining in many cases and sometimes a little subversive. Things that the 50's versions didn't seem to have. Now the 30's movies of that genre were out and out wicked, they looked on wives' adultery as just sort of a lark. And the husbands are always some sort of saps. I get a kick out of those movies. Their sense of morality is looney.
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 12:49 pm Reply with quote
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Whiskey, you should see The Straight Story, it is very untypical Lynch (whom I like), and it is an excellent movie. Farnsworth deserved the Oscar.
chillywilly
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 1:08 pm Reply with quote
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whiskeypriest wrote:
I liked Adaptation better than Being John Malkovich. They are both pretty good films. Haven't seen anything he's directed that did not have Charlie Kaufman attaced as a screenwriter.

Considering Spike has only directed two films and Charlie was on both of them as a writer/screenwriter, that's not too bad.

Spike's next film "Where The Wild Things Are" doesn't have Charlie Kaufman.

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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 1:09 pm Reply with quote
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My belief is that the 1950s were probably the finest decade for American filmmaking. Check it out, and see the movies, and tell me I'm wrong. The 1970s are always being cited, but that, IMO, is more for the edginess of the subject matter than the greatness of the films. The Godfather was undeniably a great film, but otherwise, not so much.

The 1950s were glorious on the silver screen--in this country.

Whoever talked about the British films--Kind Hearts and Coronets was indeed great, but Tunes of Glory was a photo-finish second, and for Guinness, an undisputed first. Too bad he had just won for the good but less-than-Tunes perf in Kwai. His Tunes perf was therefore a little underrated.
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Syd
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 2:02 pm Reply with quote
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I thought John Mills was actually better than Guinness in Tunes of Glory. What's interesting is that Guinness could just as easily have played Col. Barrow but chose to take Sinclair instead. Mills could probably have done Sinclair as well.

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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 2:06 pm Reply with quote
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whiskeypriest wrote:
Considering Spike has only directed two films and Charlie was on both of them as a writer/screenwriter, that's not too bad.
Well, that explains that.

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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 2:54 pm Reply with quote
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Whiskey,

Fincher's films have this unstable, fidgety center I happen to love. I'd be curious what it is about Fight Club and Se7en that turned you off, just as I'd be curious to hear you squeal for forgiveness for disliking those great films.
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Syd
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 4:20 pm Reply with quote
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chillywilly wrote:
whiskeypriest wrote:
I liked Adaptation better than Being John Malkovich. They are both pretty good films. Haven't seen anything he's directed that did not have Charlie Kaufman attaced as a screenwriter.

Considering Spike has only directed two films and Charlie was on both of them as a writer/screenwriter, that's not too bad.

Spike's next film "Where The Wild Things Are" doesn't have Charlie Kaufman.


Is that based on the children's book?

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chillywilly
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 5:11 pm Reply with quote
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Syd wrote:
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Spike's next film "Where The Wild Things Are" doesn't have Charlie Kaufman.


Is that based on the children's book?

It is:
"An adaptation of Maurice Sendak's classic children's story, where Max, a mischievous little boy, creates his own world - a forest in habited by fabulous wild creatures who crown Max as their ruler."

This is going to be marketly different than anything else he's done - both movies and music videos... so we'll see how it turns out next summer.

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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 12:33 am Reply with quote
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Syd wrote:
I thought John Mills was actually better than Guinness in Tunes of Glory. What's interesting is that Guinness could just as easily have played Col. Barrow but chose to take Sinclair instead. Mills could probably have done Sinclair as well.

I'm pretty sure the commentary said that initially the roles were reversed, but in pre-production Guinness and Mills asked to switch roles.
Tunes of Glory was a little too stiff for me, like a filmed play.

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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 12:49 am Reply with quote
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I got to Chapter 8.9 in Blood Diamond last night before I had to turn in. Please, please, 3rd Eyers, dare I go on?

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lshap
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 9:01 am Reply with quote
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On the one hand, Blood Diamond is a paint-by-numbers action/adventure story that goes almost exactly where you expect it to go.

On the other hand, it's entertaining, DiCaprio is good, and Djimon Hounsou is great.

On the third hand, I still can't fathom how Leo got the Oscar nod for this adequate job instead of his masterful performance in The Departed.
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Trish
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:17 am Reply with quote
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ehle64 wrote:
I got to Chapter 8.9 in Blood Diamond last night before I had to turn in. Please, please, 3rd Eyers, dare I go on?


well you saw the best parts - Leo shirtless, Leo speaking local Afrikaan with a diamond dealer
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