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| Rod |
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| In that case my copy is not "unedited". But it doesn't make me tremble with disappointment. Watching it last night, it truly struck me how much the film can be described as art-house Hammer horror. But that's not an insult from me. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 1:31 am |
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| While yours is not "unedited," the point is that the version you have probably represents the original release version, as opposed to many, many censored versions that played all over Europe and around the world. It's probably difficult to see the version you have in many places. Therefore, there are probably a lot of e-bay customers who'd pay decent money for it. |
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| Trish |
| Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:56 am |
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lady wakasa wrote: Marj wrote: PS. Cotten = typo.
Actually, I was only pulling yer leg. I don't know about those other unsavory characters.
And I haven't seen The Prestige, but I have seen The Illusionist, which was a C+/B- - which makes me want to see The Prestige a little less. (Even with David Bowie as Nikola Tessla.)
I liked The Prestige a lot more than the Illusionist - it was grittier and far more interesting |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:57 am |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 9:43 am |
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Marj wrote: marantzo wrote: Marj, I'm sure you can pick up The Cotton Club Murders real cheap on EBay or whatever those sites are. I got it years ago from a bargain bid at a bookstore. It's a good read and true. It was published before there was any verdict in the trial of the bad people. In fact the trial wasn't even resolved by the time I finished the book. But don't worry, it has been finished and you can look up the results. - Who is the author?
And Btw, The Cotton Club is on DVD. I just added to my queue.
Marj, I got the name wrong, it's called, Bad Company, Drugs, Hollywood and the Cotton Club Murder. It's by Steve Wick.
You can get it on Amazon etc. There are also a few reviews by readers at the Amazon site I was on. They are favourable reviews, but I wouldn't read them because they give a lot away concerning the story. |
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| Rod |
| Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 9:54 am |
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Just finished watching The Great Northfield Minnesota Raid. Uneven but generally very creditable sophomore feature for Philip Kaufman, probably the most neglected of the great Movie Brat-era directors, seeing him right from the start as the most historically-minded and socially celebratory of them. Aided by fine performances from Cliff Robertson and Robert Duvall. Pity about the silly music score by Dave Grusin and ludicrous repititious cutaways to the Pinkertons hunting down the James-Younger gangs. Lovely atmosphere conjured by Bruce Surtees.
Just started watching Halloween for the umpteenth time; I just truly appreciated how superb that opening POV shot is. |
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| lady wakasa |
| Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 11:59 am |
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Trish wrote: I liked The Prestige a lot more than the Illusionist - it was grittier and far more interesting
I'll check it out at some point- I just am collecting stacks of DVDs right now, and I want to put a dent into them. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 3:59 pm |
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Lady or Nancy (or any silent movie enthusiasts who have an answer),
I was re-watching Metropolis last night (the Kino DVD), and then reading some essays online about it. One of them, DVD Savant, claims a BBC showing included shots of semi-nude girls in the Hanging Gardens scene near the beginning. But there are no such shots in the Kino Release (unless I misunderstand the meaning of the term; there's no partial nudity in the Kino version). I would have thought the Kino release includes all footage still available. Do you know if Savant is simply wrong? The obsessive Metropolis fan in me hates missing even a frame of available material. |
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| lady wakasa |
| Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 4:50 pm |
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Joe Vitus wrote: Lady or Nancy (or any silent movie enthusiasts who have an answer),
I was re-watching Metropolis last night (the Kino DVD), and then reading some essays online about it. One of them, DVD Savant, claims a BBC showing included shots of semi-nude girls in the Hanging Gardens scene near the beginning. But there are no such shots in the Kino Release (unless I misunderstand the meaning of the term; there's no partial nudity in the Kino version). I would have thought the Kino release includes all footage still available. Do you know if Savant is simply wrong? The obsessive Metropolis fan in me hates missing even a frame of available material.
The Kino version is supposed to be the restoration that the Murnau Foundation did a few years back, as are the Eureka, the Film sans Frontières (French), and the Transit-Universum Film (German) versions. There's only a six-second difference in time (even taking into consideration the PAL transfer thing). I'd be surprised if there's footage that wasn't included, or that the BBC got their hands on footage that wasn't in the final print.
I don't see the BBC comments at DVD Savant, though. |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 5:05 pm |
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| But aren't there a couple of shots of ultra-thin blouses? I vaguely remember something like that... |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 6:09 pm |
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Maybe that's it. Here's the link to Savant's article:
http://www.dvdtalk.com/dvdsavant/s78metro.html
The line I'm referring to is "A late '70's BBC reconstruction added a few shots, including some semi-nude 'Garden Girls' glimpsed briefly when Freder romps with his preppy pals among the ferns and fountains."
But thanks for your imput. I think you're most likely right. |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 11:22 pm |
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Joe,
I haven't heard anything about that. Lady W knows more about it than I do. |
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| Rod |
| Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 11:41 pm |
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Halloween, nearly thirty years later, is still the bomb. Put together with the skill, poise, and refinement of great furniture, a triumph of fluent minimalism that does an extraordinary amount with very little. Its strongest quality is that like Michael Myers himself, the film is gleefully vicious in humour but not sadistic. I was noting, this time, how the teasingly black humour is woven into the very structure of the film; observing with special care how cleverly Carpenter keeps from revealing his murderer is a child at the start, and how he tempts to droolers in audience with PJ Soles' tits but does not show them until she's being strangled.
I was reflecting especially on a distinct quality it borrows from the '50s monster flicks it pays tribute to, the way it contrasts the free-and-easy suburban evening, seeming enevloping in its friendliness even (or especially) with the walpurgis-lite mood of Halloween, with real danger; in that way it most clearly evokes the original The Blob & I Married A Monster From Outer Space, where teens inhabit the night fearlessly as their space, the time they can sneak out, make out, have their own lives unsupervised. And it's tapping into that real element and the atmosphere of mild paranoia that attends such escapades that makes such films work, and specifically made Halloween such a perfect model and crucial success. Yes, it did pinch, and to a certain extent de-intellectualize, work by Bava and Argento, but it replaced this with a network of references and ideas of its own.
Another take on the film I become more sure of is that it's a celebration of geek power, rather than puritanical morality. Buffy the Vampire Slayer and sidekick Willow both owe a lot to Jamie Lee's Laurie Strode. Laurie might not be getting laid, but that just means she's not so distracted that she doesn't pick up on the warning signs that combust around her. Nerds rule. The End. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 11:48 pm |
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| Thanks, Nancy. |
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