| Author |
Message |
|
| Marj |
 Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:33 pm |
 |
|
Joined: 21 May 2004
Posts: 10497
Location: Manhattan
|
I think The Cotton Club is one of those films that is more of an experience than anything else. And I think it's one either you enjoy or you don't. Personally I loved it and I've seen it numerous times.
I guess it's a case of different strokes, Joe. |
|
|
| Back to top |
   
|
| Rod |
| Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:48 pm |
|
|
Joined: 21 Dec 2004
Posts: 2944
Location: Lithgow, Australia
|
Joe Vitus wrote: The big problem with The Cotton Club is that white people didn't perform at the Cotton Club, yet a white man playing there is the gist of the plot. It's ludicrous. It also looks like an 80's era MTV video, which is no compliment.
No it isn't. Gere's character plays very briefly - about two minutes - with the Cotton Club orhcestra; it's announced he's the first white guy ever to do it, and he's a big movie star at that point and has the clout to do such a thing.
And it doesn't look like an '80s music video. Streets of Fire looks like an '80s music video. |
_________________
A long time ago, but somehow in the future...It is a period of civil war and renegade paragraphs floating through space. |
|
| Back to top |
|
| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:38 am |
|
|
Joined: 20 May 2004
Posts: 14498
Location: Houston
|
| Will concede the former point, not the latter. It does look like a music video. |
_________________
You've got a great brain. You should keep it in your head.
-Topher |
|
| Back to top |
|
| Marj |
| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:50 am |
|
|
|
Joined: 21 May 2004
Posts: 10497
Location: Manhattan
|
Joe,
You're not alone. The Cotten Club, while a movie a personally loved, is certainly not without its detractors. Sometimes I think it was a film ahead of its time. |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 1:12 am |
|
|
|
Joined: 20 May 2004
Posts: 14498
Location: Houston
|
| All right, you can't say you "personally loved" it and leave it at that. Explain please. |
_________________
You've got a great brain. You should keep it in your head.
-Topher |
|
| Back to top |
|
| Marj |
| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 1:46 am |
|
|
|
Joined: 21 May 2004
Posts: 10497
Location: Manhattan
|
| Joe --Not much really. Just a turn of phrase I guess. And maybe that I know when it first came out, it got a lot of poor reviews. |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
| ehle64 |
| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 1:52 am |
|
|
Joined: 20 May 2004
Posts: 7149
Location: NYC; US&A
|
| Cotten???? |
_________________
It truly disappoints me when people do something for you via no prompt of your own and then use it as some kind of weapon against you at a later time and place. It is what it is. |
|
| Back to top |
|
| tirebiter |
| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 2:20 am |
|
|
|
Joined: 20 May 2004
Posts: 4011
Location: not far away
|
I remember enjoying reading about the making of the film in NEW YORK magazine: behind the scenes, Coppola and Evans were dealing with some really unsavory characters who'd put up the money for the movie. There was murder and thuggery, and Evans was tooting coke like it was going out of style. The good old days.
The film, for me anyway, is a sleek and beautiful object without a soul. |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
| Rod |
| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 8:34 am |
|
|
|
Joined: 21 Dec 2004
Posts: 2944
Location: Lithgow, Australia
|
| Just watching The Devils, it occured to me finally what it is, narratively speaking; A Man For All Seasons with the skin of civility flayed off. |
_________________
A long time ago, but somehow in the future...It is a period of civil war and renegade paragraphs floating through space. |
|
| Back to top |
|
| Trish |
| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 9:04 am |
|
|
Joined: 21 May 2004
Posts: 2438
Location: Massachusetts
|
billyweeds wrote: Just saw two DVDs from netflix that I can recommend highly. One is from 1993 and I'm sure most of you have already seen it. It's This Boy's Life starring Robert De Niro, Ellen Barkin, and (in the leading role of "this boy") Leonardo DiCaprio in his first important assignment. It's based on the true-life experiences (told in his memoir) of Tobias Wolff, whose footloose and rather clueless mom married a hellishly self-hating and abusive man who became (as netflix's notes succinctly state) "the stepfather from hell."
The movie is efficiently directed by Michael Caton-Jones and De Niro and Barkin are very fine. But the center and the key is DiCaprio, who foreshadows his brilliant career with a riveting performance.
Thanks Billy for mentioning this great film - I have the DVD, love the film DeNiro is also particularly great in it - funny disturbing |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
| Trish |
| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 9:06 am |
|
|
|
Joined: 21 May 2004
Posts: 2438
Location: Massachusetts
|
billyweeds wrote: yambu wrote: billyweeds wrote: Just saw two DVDs from netflix that I can recommend highly. One is from 1993 and I'm sure most of you have already seen it. It's This Boy's Life starring Robert De Niro, Ellen Barkin, and (in the leading role of "this boy") Leonardo DiCaprio in his first important assignment..... When I saw it on the big screen, I thought the kid in it was great. But until you said so just now, I didn't realize who it was. Thanks. It's time to rent it.
For some reason I had never seen it before. It's really good entertainment (though De Niro's sadism gets hard to watch sometimes), and DiCaprio is great.
I'm shocked you didn't see it too - I've mentioned this film and Leo's performance it here before I assumed everyone had seen it - so glad you enjoyed it |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
| marantzo |
| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 9:30 am |
|
|
|
Guest
|
| Tire, read The Cotton Club Murders. It's gives you a real close up of the unsavory (and that's being kind) characters involved. The woman is actually satan. Very entertaining read. And as an aside, I guy I knew in my youth is even mentioned in it as a periferal unsavoury character. (He was murdered in NYC). |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:53 am |
|
|
|
Joined: 20 May 2004
Posts: 14498
Location: Houston
|
Rod wrote: Just watching The Devils, it occured to me finally what it is, narratively speaking; A Man For All Seasons with the skin of civility flayed off.
Is this a video purchase? I really like The Devils, and eagerly await a DVD release. |
_________________
You've got a great brain. You should keep it in your head.
-Topher |
|
| Back to top |
|
| Syd |
| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:14 pm |
|
|
Site Admin
Joined: 21 May 2004
Posts: 12929
Location: Norman, Oklahoma
|
A movie about Joseph Cotten fans. |
_________________
Rocky Laocoon foretold of Troy's doom, only to find snaky water. They pulled him in and Rocky can't swim. Now Rocky wishes he were an otter! |
|
| Back to top |
|
| lady wakasa |
| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:17 pm |
|
|
Joined: 21 May 2004
Posts: 5911
Location: Beyond the Blue Horizon
|
Syd wrote:
A movie about Joseph Cotten fans.
That, or he opened his own club and they made a movie about it... |
_________________
===================
http://www.wakasaworld.com |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
