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| bart |
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| Saw Broken Flowers -- very slow and vignettish and rife with inexplicable encounters and loose ends to remind you how pretentious and dull Jim Jarmusch can be on an off day. Or year. Without Bill Murray, who can read a phone book and hold your interest (and I would think, have a pretty good time doing it), this film would have been quickly identified as the steaming pile of crap that it is. I found it impossible to identify with, or take the slightest interest in, any of the characters -- except for Jessica Lange's cat, which had a certain expressive quality and grace that somewhat counterbalanced Ms. Lange's hideous rendition of a flakejob. |
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| Jynx |
| Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:02 pm |
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Quote: Now what the hell did we do to deserve THAT?
Not directed at anyone whiskatoon ... just a very pambula moment because Johnny Cash was my dad's idol and my dad said phuc you to the establishment, as I do too, in the exact same manner. |
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| ehle64 |
| Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:41 pm |
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mo_flixx wrote: Has anyone seen a film called A TOUT DE SUITE by Benoit Jacquot? I don't recognize any of his other movies listed at the imdb.com.
A TOUT DE SUITE evokes the Nouvelle Vague with its low contrast b & w photography, interior car shots, and Paris street life. The story is reminiscent of Godard's BANDE A PART (even BREATHLESS) or Malick's BADLANDS. The script is based on the true account of an 18-yr. old art student from the bourgeoisie who falls in love with a bank robber and is drawn into his life on the run.
The film is cast with unknowns. The young student's naivete, the adrenaline rush, and a few expensive trinkets seem all that's needed to make her a perfect accomplice. Predictably her world begins to fall apart as the robber's psycho partner self-destructs and a series of misadventures ensue.
The movie has a low budget look and engaged me with its apparent simplicity. I was impressed with what it _didn't say_. The lead actress has an interesting look; not conventionally beautiful but very expressive.
On a scale of 1 to 10, I'd give this film a 6.5. Worth renting.
FYI, anyone else interested in this film, Sundance Channel is airing it this Friday @ 3:30am and next Tuesday @ 10pm |
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| chillywilly |
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Jynx wrote: I need to rent Quote: The Upside of Anger again; after seeing that post, I want to watch it again. I thought it was a good/very good film, Costner plays the doofus so well.
I know billy and I were big fans of Costner is that movie. Very well done and Costner nails his role. |
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| whiskeypriest |
| Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:56 pm |
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chillywilly wrote: Jynx wrote: I need to rent Quote: The Upside of Anger again; after seeing that post, I want to watch it again. I thought it was a good/very good film, Costner plays the doofus so well.
I know billy and I were big fans of Costner is that movie. Very well done and Costner nails his role. |
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| Jynx |
| Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 4:16 pm |
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whiskers - I agree, I don't think Costner has ever 'nailed' anything except his ex-wife, that chick he had another kid with and his new wife who is preggers too.
I think Tin Cup and The Upside of Anger were very doofusy roles but I thoroughly enjoyed both movies and thought he was spot-on as the self-absorbed, conceited dickhead lush, but I don't think that's nailing anything, nor was he the voice of reason/wisest one in the bunch in TUOA.
I think to actually nail a role, or a part, it has to be a stretch, such as Whitaker in TLKOS or Denzel in Malcom X, and it must make the movie viewer gasp out loud. THAT is nailing it.
I think a cardboard stand-in could have acted better than Costner in Waltzing with Fierce Doggies.[/i] |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 4:30 pm |
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| The Costner fanatics among us, and yes, we exist, are sick and tired of hearing Costner's bad performances trotted out as if they outnumber the good ones. They don't. And if you need chapter and verse I will provide it, except then we'd get "Field of Dreams wasn't a good performance," "Bull Durham wasn't a stretch and Tim Robbins was better," etc., etc., etc. All resoundingly untrue statements, but Costner pushes buttons for some reason. A real movie star and a more than decent actor. |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 4:38 pm |
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billyweeds wrote: The Costner fanatics among us, and yes, we exist, are sick and tired of hearing Costner's bad performances trotted out as if they outnumber the good ones. They don't. And if you need chapter and verse I will provide it, except then we'd get "Field of Dreams wasn't a good performance," "Bull Durham wasn't a stretch and Tim Robbins was better," etc., etc., etc. All resoundingly untrue statements, but Costner pushes buttons for some reason. A real movie star and a more than decent actor.
It just bolted thru my brain that I saw Costner as a boatbuilder in some weeper that may have also starred Paul Newman a few years ago, and it reaffirmed my decision to avoid Costner in the future.
But I yield to your superior knowledge of his ouevre, billy. I've just got that "fooled me once shame on you" vibe going about him. If he's ever in something I really want to see, I'll give him another chance. |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:01 pm |
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I'll give you the button pushing thingy ... when he made the speech about slow, deep kisses in BD, it made me, um, ah, it made me go "oh my" just like Susan did.
FOD was only as good as the kidnapping scene, which was a hootnahalf.
Hell, like Costner, LOVE Costner, I'm not in any position to say who you should or shouldn't admire. And who hasn't made a stinker or two (okay, up to double digits for Costner/Cage/Cruise) in their careers? Everyone has a gem too. I, if made to choose, would pick A Perfect World, 3K To Graceland or No Way Out for my Costner fav. Heck, I even got misty at a few scenes in Message in a Bottle so who am I to judge?
I do, though, justify my 'fav' Costner movies with APW = Clint Eastwood; 3KTG = Kurt Russell; NWO = fanphucingtastic death scene; MIAB = Sir Newman.
I'm no longer a Cruiseophile so I say live and let live and let's all love everyone. |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:37 pm |
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Jynx--Bless you. Kev was horrible in Robin Hood and way out in left field in The Postman and Waterworld and Dances With Wolves. But most of the time he's at least good, and sometimes (A Perfect World, Bull Durham, No Way Out, The Upside of Anger) way, way better than that.
He's also a crackerjack villain in 3K to Graceland as you pointed out, and so I can't wait for his upcoming serial-killer turn in Mr. Brooks. Until then I have The Guardian in my netflix queue. Not supposed to be all that good, but, hey, it's got Kev. |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 6:15 pm |
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williamweeds - I saw TG and must say that Costner was the best part of the movie. In spite of not liking it at all, I thought it moved with the deft of a Dr. Seuss book, Costner was the saving grace. Ashton needs to stay home, go back to Punk'd, work on getting Demi preggers, ANYTHING but make a supposed to be serious movie.
There are some damn good scenes though.
Enjoy! I'm curious to see a Costnerphile review it. |
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Thought Costner was excellent in The Upside of Anger. Can't think of another film where he was much good. He was passable in Bull Duram (sp?) thought some of the lines like his declaration of what he liked were for vomiting (not his fault), but Field of Dreams sucked BVC big time and so did all involved. What a sad thing for Lancaster to be saddled with so late in his life. Feh! Ooops, he was goood in Silverado, a very uneven film.
Broken Flowers was very good. |
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| In addition to the ones Billy already mentioned, I feel that JFK contains a splendid Costner performance. |
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| Thanks, Earl. I was trying to think of a Costner perf. I liked. Some I tolerated, most I couldn't stand. |
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| billyweeds |
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Earl wrote: In addition to the ones Billy already mentioned, I feel that JFK contains a splendid Costner performance.
I liked him a lot in JFK too, even though it ran afoul of his bugaboo, accents. He was also superior in the Bay of Pigs movie whose title escapes me, it's Seven Days or Thirteen Hours or Sixty-One Minutes or something. But anyway, he was terrific if you could overlook the really lame Boston accent. In JFK it was, I think, Southern. The one movie where it was ruinous was Robin Hood, where he turned the English bandit into a California surfer dude. |
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