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mo_flixx
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:18 am Reply with quote
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marantzo wrote:
mo_flixx wrote:
marantzo wrote:
Woody Allen is still good. And I know that it offends some righteous feminists, but from all the evidence, he and his wife seem to be very happy together. And she's no bimbo. Mia Farrow is the one with the screw loose.


Woody hit his stride again...but was definitely in the doldrums for a long time. Thank God he finally gave up trying to play his own romantic leads.


True that, but I never really understood the problem people had with him playing the romantic lead. It's not like he makes himself out to be some sort of heart throb. He's always some neurotic, insecure misfit.


Gary, he was fine as a neurotic, insecure misfit. Never underestimate the power of a funny man.
The problem was that he just got to too old for romance with his leading ladies.
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yambu
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:44 am Reply with quote
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I loved him and Mariel Hemingway in Manhattan, despite the (Hah!) age difference.
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billyweeds
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:55 am Reply with quote
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mo_flixx wrote:
marantzo wrote:
mo_flixx wrote:
marantzo wrote:
Woody Allen is still good. And I know that it offends some righteous feminists, but from all the evidence, he and his wife seem to be very happy together. And she's no bimbo. Mia Farrow is the one with the screw loose.


Woody hit his stride again...but was definitely in the doldrums for a long time. Thank God he finally gave up trying to play his own romantic leads.


True that, but I never really understood the problem people had with him playing the romantic lead. It's not like he makes himself out to be some sort of heart throb. He's always some neurotic, insecure misfit.


Gary, he was fine as a neurotic, insecure misfit. Never underestimate the power of a funny man.
The problem was that he just got to too old for romance with his leading ladies.


It's never too late for love. But Woody, I agree, looks like Tea Leoni's grandfather in the ridiculous Hollywood Ending, which I think is indisputably the low point of Allen's career. Unwatchably horrible.
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marantzo
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:57 am Reply with quote
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Well the age difference was a basic point of the movie.

Shortly after the films release, I had just seen it a few days earlier, I happened to be at Elaine's one weekend night and the place was jammed with stars. Woody was at one table with some woman and Mariel was at another with two of her girlfriends. One was an actress, but I forget who. Woody and Mariel never acknowledged each other. They were a number of tables apart, but just having seen the movie, I was a little disappointed.
Ghulam
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 11:34 am Reply with quote
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Guess who are they discussing in NYT's Crossword Puzzles Forum right now? Today's puzzle is themed on Woody's movies.
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Marj
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:22 pm Reply with quote
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And guess who was right in the middle of the discussion. Someone near and dear to all of us. Wink

Of course now you can't get on the forums. Heavy Traffic or some such.
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inlareviewer
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 6:13 pm Reply with quote
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Ghulam wrote:
Having sat through three hours plus of Warren Beatty's Reds 25 years ago made me approach a re-viewing with trpidation, but my fear was unfounded. It is an intelligent, well directed (Beatty got an Oscar for direction) and thoroughly absorbing epic. It has a rich historical background of World War I, the Russian Revolution and the nascent American Communist Party which is very authentic. But it is essentially a remarkable love story. And what a love story it is! Both Beatty and Diane Keaton are excellent as lovers, as well as writers and activists. Jack Nicholson as Eugene O'Neill and Maureen Stapleton as Emma Goldman are superb. I had fully expected it to get the best picture Oscar, and I still do not understand how Chariots of Fire was considered the better movie.

It wasn't. That, um, film society hit a logjam between the epic romanticumentary of Reds, the poetically quirky grit of Atlantic City, the rip-roaring B-serial resumazione of Raiders of the Lost Ark and the cuddly-cranky old school popcorn populism of On Golden Pond, which allowed the Vangelis-radio-airplay-propelled Masterpiece Theatrics of Chariots to squeak across the finish line.

Have always loved Reds, both despite and because of the liberties it takes with Reed and Bryant's factual narrative, particularly in the second half. The contemporary talking heads are inspired, the ever-shifting scope of the thing is remarkable, that vast cast outdoes itself. Keaton's face at the penultimate scene never fails to devastate my tear ducts, and Sondheim's love theme doesn't exactly dry them up. A marvelous film.

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Marj
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 7:22 pm Reply with quote
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Inla - So is what you wrote about it. Marvelous.
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inlareviewer
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 7:26 pm Reply with quote
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Marj: Well, merci (insert blushing emoticon here).

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mo_flixx
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 7:34 pm Reply with quote
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The BORAT dvd will be out 3/6/07 with EXTRAS!!
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mo_flixx wrote:
The BORAT dvd will be out 3/6/07 with EXTRAS!!


One shudders to think.

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mo_flixx
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 8:48 pm Reply with quote
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Syd wrote:
mo_flixx wrote:
The BORAT dvd will be out 3/6/07 with EXTRAS!!


One shudders to think.


PAMELA AND BORAT GET IT ON??? X-rated male/female wrestling?

No wonder Kid Rock left the preview in a huff.
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bart
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:39 pm Reply with quote
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Finally saw OC & Stiggs -- seemingly a deliberate godawful fit of self parody on Altman's part. A film that screams, "The director didn't really want to make this film!!" You get the feeling the crew and cast had fun with it. It was fun to witness Jon Cryer and Cynthia Nixon in what were probably their first film roles. And somewhere in all that mutually interrupting Altmanesque dialog where you can't follow what anyone is saying, some nuggets of good comedy.

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ehle64
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 2:54 pm Reply with quote
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For Your Home Viewing Toodles Consideration:


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inlareviewer
Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:05 pm Reply with quote
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ehle64 wrote:
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Oh, darnitall. Now, I'm going to have to rent that to see it again. A first-rate guerrilla-made film, thought I, and not just because I lived down the street from where they shot it, late in the last century.

I mean, your other Blanche campaign ad caused me to go rent Friends With Money, to see if I liked it more or less than hitherto. It was a draw. Still longed for a shot of Ms. Aniston and Mr. Stephenson shopping together under the final crawl, and it really isn't much more than an expanded thirtysomething episode with Eric Rohmer touches. Even so, that Nicole Hassenpfeffer sure can write sparky dialogue and unhackneyed behaviorals, and the acting was proficient, especially Mr. McBurney's ambiguous aesthete and Mrs. Coen's deliciously raucous crank.

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