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| ehle64 |
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billyweeds wrote: Ehle--Word on McDaniel. She's great, playing the stereotype and somehow miraculously avoiding it.
Thank you for expressing my thoughts more succinctly. Although, she did kick ass! |
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| yambu |
| Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 12:49 pm |
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billyweeds wrote: --Word on McDaniel. She's great, playing the stereotype and somehow miraculously avoiding it...... |
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| bart |
| Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:20 pm |
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Saw The Machinist over the break -- Hitchcock and Kafka, with a pinch of Lynch...and Method Acting to the nth degree from Christian Bale. I know they don't make a good Skinny Suit, and one can only do so much with lenses, but holy mother of f--k! I suspect clandestine meetings with the agents of Big Cheeseburger followed shortly the conclusion of principal photography.
Best DVDs viewed in 2006:
The Machinist
Proof
Syriana
Thank You For Smoking
Breakfast on Pluto
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| Befade |
| Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 6:43 pm |
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Billy wrote: "I am currently in rehearsal for a play written and directed by an African-American woman. I'm the only Caucasian in a large cast and I am working hard at avoiding stereotyping the racists I play while still playing them. Hattie McDaniel is an inspiration."
Sounds very interesting. Who is the director?
Bart......I forgot about Proof. Saw the play. The writer went to high school with my son.
Speaking of Bart. I believe he starred in Terms of Endearment which I watched again last night. I think he was Shirley MacLaine's bike riding instructor. After her experience in the Corvette with Jack Nicholson and his astronaut, girl-hopping ways, Shirley needed to slow her pace.
Debra Winger was not only beautiful, but wonderful in the role of the daughter. I think I liked this more the third time around. |
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| mo_flixx |
| Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 7:49 pm |
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bart wrote: Saw The Machinist over the break -- Hitchcock and Kafka, with a pinch of Lynch...and Method Acting to the nth degree from Christian Bale. I know they don't make a good Skinny Suit, and one can only do so much with lenses, but holy mother of f--k! I suspect clandestine meetings with the agents of Big Cheeseburger followed shortly the conclusion of principal photography.
Best DVDs viewed in 2006:
The Machinist
Proof
Syriana
Thank You For Smoking
Breakfast on Pluto
Primer
FINALLY...I was a huge fan of THE MACHINIST. |
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| lady wakasa |
| Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 10:57 pm |
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I really liked The Machinist, and Christian Bale is high on the list for me, but I saw the movie within a couple of days of seeing Fight Club, and I just thought FC the better movie.
It was a mistake to see them both close together. |
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| gromit |
| Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 2:45 am |
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| Mo, The Machinist got alot of praise here. I know Marc was an early champion. I talked it up quite a bit. Even watched it twice within a few months. Lorne or someone else was also wowed by it. I even recced it to my one Dvd store guy, who subsequently told customers about it. But the feedback he got was not too positive. (But who knows what these folks were looking for?) |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 8:33 am |
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Befade wrote: Billy wrote: "I am currently in rehearsal for a play written and directed by an African-American woman. I'm the only Caucasian in a large cast and I am working hard at avoiding stereotyping the racists I play while still playing them. Hattie McDaniel is an inspiration."
Sounds very interesting. Who is the director?
Her name is Sabura Rashid. Mighty intelligent woman. |
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| mo_flixx |
| Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 9:03 am |
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gromit wrote: Mo, The Machinist got alot of praise here. I know Marc was an early champion. I talked it up quite a bit. Even watched it twice within a few months. Lorne or someone else was also wowed by it. I even recced it to my one Dvd store guy, who subsequently told customers about it. But the feedback he got was not too positive. (But who knows what these folks were looking for?)
gromit -
see my post which follows... |
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| mo_flixx |
| Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 9:18 am |
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One of several of my posts about THE MACHINIST.
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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 5:59 pm
FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION:
THE MACHINIST - Best Picture
THE MACHINIST - Best Cinematography
CHRISTIAN BALE - Best Actor, "The Machinist" |
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| bart |
| Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:52 am |
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Mo,
the only hesitation I have about "best actor" is that he lost so much weight that it pulled me out of the story a little, with thoughts of "Wow, that can't be too good for Bale's health." His appearance was so freakish, and I think he could have dropped to, say, 140, instead of 120, and it would have gotten the idea across regarding the film's major concerns about guilt and emotional torment. What I mean is, I think his acting was good enough to put us in a Dostoyevsky place without Bale having to shorten his lifespan. (what's more scary is that he went right out, after shooting, and beefed up to 190 so he could be Batman...)
I had a similar reservation about Michael Ironside's prostethic hand. Again, I pulled back a little ....it seemed like he was disturbing and creepy enough without the prop.
I guess this all goes to the classic Olivier/Hoffman encounter, regarding Method acting. |
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| Befade |
| Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 1:13 pm |
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I would make the connection between The Machinist and Crime and Punishment. But I thought it was agonizing to watch the skeletal Christian. I don't enjoy disturbing films.
Watched American Masters: Annie Leibovitz: "Life Through A Lens" on PBS. And am linking it here because I'd like to compare her to Diane Arbus......saw Fur, reading the biography by Patricia Bosworth, and have watched the video Masters of Photography: Arbus.
Arbus and Leibovitz have several things in common: both Jewish women with daughters, both were painters, both worked in NYC, both famous portrait photographers. There the similarity ends.
Arbus: grew up rich and privileged in NYC, the daughter of dept. store owners. was a brilliant student and painter. fell in love at 15 and decided to marry Allan Arbus and skip college. also wanted to escape confining and controlling atmosphere with parents, was subject to severe mood swings, was drawn to the adventure of seeking out her portrait subjects from the scary world she had not grown up in.
Leibovitz: grew up in a large, happy family as an Army brat, went to art school in San Francisco, not a book reader, got a job at Rolling Stone and when she left entered drug rehab, moved on to Vanity Fair and Vogue, had relationship with Susan Sontag, NYC intellectual who urged her to do more serious work, creates elaborate, expensive stagings for her portraits of famous people.........making them even more famous.
I hate to say it but Arbus puts Leibovitz to shame. The video is introduced by her daughter, Doon and features narration of her own writing read by a friend, displaying many of her photographs. |
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| inlareviewer |
| Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 4:21 pm |
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Actually, Leibowitz was an Air Force brat. Really liked that AM last night, which was on during work, a lot, though Steichen and Arbus and Swope are my favorite photogs.
After which, faced with too many contradictory ballots from local theater critical sphericals, turned to McCabe and Mrs. Miller, then Gosford Park to decompress. (It's all part of the campaign to maintain denial about Altman's passing.) The former held up, Ms. Christie and the mise en scène most especially, Mr. Bening's tics and some anachronisms somewhat less so; the latter, as usual, kept catching me off-guard with some detail or nuance not noticed in the previous seventy-nine viewings.
After the Eternal Sunshine experiment in internationale home viewing, now must see Mary Poppins, with either the Spanish or French dub feature, haven't made up my mind yet. Both have wonderful voice doubles for Dame Julie and the kids and parents, and the language switch makes all the difference in van Dyke's performance. Plus the choral enunciation and translation scan on certain songs is priceless. |
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| mo_flixx |
| Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 5:55 pm |
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Befade wrote: I would make the connection between The Machinist and Crime and Punishment. But I thought it was agonizing to watch the skeletal Christian. I don't enjoy disturbing films....
I really _like_ disturbing films. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 8:12 pm |
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