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| Befade |
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Mo wrote "But IMO almost all the gt. houses in movies have been designed by John Lautner - only a few exceptions."
When I was in Palm Springs I bought a book on Lautner......haven't gotten to it yet. I think there's room for a book on architecture in film......interests me.
Here's to Wong Kar-Wai and Ehle. I would like to spend New Years with Tony Leung. |
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| mo_flixx |
| Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 8:24 pm |
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Befade wrote: Mo wrote "But IMO almost all the gt. houses in movies have been designed by John Lautner - only a few exceptions."
When I was in Palm Springs I bought a book on Lautner......haven't gotten to it yet. I think there's room for a book on architecture in film......interests me.
Here's to Wong Kar-Wai and Ehle. I would like to spend New Years with Tony Leung.
Befade -
Somehow I think there already is one. Do some searches on amazon.com
BTW contrary to rumor, I have always felt that the true model for Howard Roark in Ayn Rand's _The Fountainhead_ was actually John Lautner, NOT Frank Lloyd Wright. The more one knows about Lautner this appears to be quite plausible. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 9:36 pm |
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| Mo, maybe you know something that I don't know, which is entirely possible, but Roark sure sounded like Wright to me. Background, personality, politics etc. A juvenile book, by the way. |
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| mo_flixx |
| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 12:29 am |
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marantzo wrote: Mo, maybe you know something that I don't know, which is entirely possible, but Roark sure sounded like Wright to me. Background, personality, politics etc. A juvenile book, by the way.
Lautner was the project manager on all Wright's L.A. houses in the '40's before he went out on his own. Do you know much about John Lautner? |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 10:01 am |
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mo_flixx wrote: marantzo wrote: Mo, maybe you know something that I don't know, which is entirely possible, but Roark sure sounded like Wright to me. Background, personality, politics etc. A juvenile book, by the way.
Lautner was the project manager on all Wright's L.A. houses in the '40's before he went out on his own. Do you know much about John Lautner?
No. |
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| bart |
| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 12:11 pm |
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Befade, Breakfast on Pluto is not typical Irish film, as far as angst goes. What it offers is quite the opposite of angst. You will love it.
Saw The Prestige, which I mention here, as it's late enough in its run as to be more on the verge of home viewing -- an entertaining mess, with lots of fun "wait a minute" moments. E.g. "Wait a minute, is that....David Bowie as Tesla?" or "Wait a minute....teleportation...really??" I continue to marvel at the talent that is Christian Bale. If he's in a film, I pretty much have to see it. (I just put The Machinist on the netflix queue) |
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| Earl |
| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 2:06 pm |
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The Family Stone
Saw this last night at my mother's place after eating dinner. She had taped it off HBO the night before because she thought I should see it. I can kinda she what she means, because the movie has its moments. It definitely wasn't the kind of movie last year's trailers made it seem like. Overall, though, it was disappointing.
No way could someone who had risen in the corporate world to the level Merideth (Sarah Jessica Parker) supposedly had (she does high-level business in Asia, for cryin' out loud) be that socially inept. Granted, she's nervous about meeting her boyfriend's large, outgoing family for the first time, and her eagerness to have them accept her might account for some of her awkwardness. But the whole dinner scene in which Merideth antagonizes nearly everyone at the table, including her boyfriend, was too much. "Is this woman that stupid?" I was wondering. "They've just firmly told her 'Enough!' and she keeps going?"
Then after setting her up as a prude, the movie implies that all she really needed was a few drinks and the "real" Merideth would surface. She's laughing. She's dancing. She's flirty. Her hair is down after having been in a bun all through the first half of the story. The outline of her sexy black bra can now easily be seen through her white blouse. Why, deep down inside that conservative business executive was a fun dame after all. Awww.
Well, as I said, the movie had its moments. The subplot involving the married couple played by Diane Keaton and Craig T. Nelson was touching. It just felt as if it belonged in a better movie. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 3:29 pm |
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Sorry, Earl, but I agree with your mom. The Family Stone was a wonderful movie, my favorite "new" Christmas classic. You don't mention Luke Wilson, one of the best things about the movie, or Claire Danes, who I usually don't go that much for but who here charmed me utterly. You may have a point about Parker being a bit too inept to be a big corporate type, but maybe you haven't met that many corporate types. A lot of them are really dorky in social situations.
The scene where Meredith "let down her hair" was terrific, I thought, and SJP did a great job. As for Diane Keaton, wow. |
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| Marj |
| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 4:41 pm |
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Earl,
I have to agree with Billy. The Family Stone was one of my favorite films of 2005. I think sometimes one has to loosen one's sense of reality a bit or or can spoil an otherwise terrific movie.
As much as I loved SJP in this it was the ensemble work of the enitire cast that really made this film work. This is perhaps the best family film since Meet Me in St. Louis. And a wonderful holiday classic.
Try watching again and try suspending your disbelief. I found the more I watched it, the more I loved it. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 4:53 pm |
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This is perhaps the best family film since Meet Me in St. Louis.
Great insight, Marj. I think The Family Stone was not only one of the best films of 2005, but also quite severely underrated (possibly because of that silly trailer Earl alludes to). |
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| Befade |
| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 4:58 pm |
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What is the best Christmas movie anyway? I'd vote for Home for the Holidays. I could have used it yesterday.
Bart.......I'm wondering if you will appreciate Christian Bale's thinness in The Machinist......There IS some angst in that film.
Mo.......If there's a movie/architecture book I'll find it.
Gary........do you want to borrow my Lautner book when I'm done with it. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 5:07 pm |
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Thanks, Betsy, but don't go to the bother. I'll check him out the next time I'm at the library.
Doesn't Home for the Holidays take place on Thanksgiving? I haven't seen it. |
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| Syd |
| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 5:45 pm |
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Quote: "But the whole dinner scene in which Merideth antagonizes nearly everyone at the table, including her boyfriend, was too much. "Is this woman that stupid?" I was wondering. "They've just firmly told her 'Enough!' and she keeps going?"
Yes, I cringed at that, but not because it was bad. It's the moment when someone say something unthinkable, then tries to explain it, making it even worse, and keep digging himself in deeper. It does happen in real life, as George Allen, Mel Gibson, Michael Richards and others discover. After a while you just want to say, "Shut up and stop explaining." I wanted to crawl under the table.
It happens online too. |
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| Earl |
| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 5:55 pm |
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Billy & Marj
Re The Family Stone
I agree that it's an ensemble piece and I don't fault the actors. My main complaint is at the storytelling level. Merideth's transformation and the family's subsequent acceptance of her are the centerpiece of the plot. Both happened too abruptly for me. I don't see how the Merideth we saw in that dinner scene, in which she behaved so horridly, could leave the house overnight with Ben and then have the family embrace her the very next morning.
I can suspend my disbelief a lot. I'm one of the all-time great suspenders. I'm in the Suspender Hall of Fame with Larry King and Gordon Gekko. But I can't suspend it that much. |
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| yambu |
| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 5:56 pm |
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Befade wrote: What is the best Christmas movie anyway?.... |
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