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| bart |
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It's usually assumed a remake will somehow be inferior to the original, but I saw each at different times in my life, so I have a hard time saying I like one better. Maybe because I'd pretty much forgotten a lot about the one with Peck and Mitchum by the time I saw the remake with DeNiro, Older Peck, et al.
Generally, the remake of a suspense film has a hard row to hoe, if its viewers can remember the original. Some viewers will feel a certain allegiance to the original cast, and even if they don't, the suspense will (obviously) be mitigated by prior knowledge. |
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| yambu |
| Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 2:21 pm |
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| yambu |
| Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 3:38 pm |
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Say, whatever happened to "It's Hard Out Here For A Pimp"? People here were extolling it, while I predicted no one would be humming it after the film's run. Well, it hasn't exactly gone the way of "White Christmas", or "Mrs. Robinson", or "The Way We Were", or "Stayin' Alive", or "Moon River", or "When You Wish Upon a Star", or "Over the Rainbow", or "As Time Goes By".
HAH?
Not even one cover, that I know of. |
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| Syd |
| Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 5:11 pm |
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| Thanks a lot. Now I'm humming it again and people are going to look at me strangely again. |
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| gromit |
| Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 10:47 pm |
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bart wrote: It's usually assumed a remake will somehow be inferior to the original...
Generally, the remake of a suspense film has a hard row to hoe, if its viewers can remember the original. Some viewers will feel a certain allegiance to the original cast, and even if they don't, the suspense will (obviously) be mitigated by prior knowledge.
Actually I saw the remake first and thought it was okay.
Then I saw the original a year later and really liked the characters, the suspense, etc. I'm a pretty big Mitchum fan. |
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| Trish |
| Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:04 am |
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yambu wrote: Say, whatever happened to "It's Hard Out Here For A Pimp"? People here were extolling it, while I predicted no one would be humming it after the film's run. Well, it hasn't exactly gone the way of "White Christmas", or "Mrs. Robinson", or "The Way We Were", or "Stayin' Alive", or "Moon River", or "When You Wish Upon a Star", or "Over the Rainbow", or "As Time Goes By".
HAH?
Not even one cover, that I know of.
AND what were the other best song choices for that year? that is an original song made specifically for a film
the fact that I still remember parts of the song is a miracle in itself |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:34 am |
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| The remake of Cape Fear was the rare Scorsese disaster. Over the top doesn't even begin to describe De Niro's hambone performance. The original was scary and creepy, with a great performance by Mitchum and a brilliantly scene-stealing turn by Fred Astaire partner Barrie Chase, who uses her dancer's skills to create a wordless piece of horror, indicating almost precisely the damage Mitchum's psycho has done to her body. |
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| Trish |
| Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:39 am |
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sorry Billy - while it may not have lived up to the original film (so few re-makes do) - it was far from bad -and DeNiro was excellent creepy scary
and you forget Juliette Lewis - got a best supporting actress nomination
I've never seen the original - but that aside I was totally entertained by this film IT WORKED |
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| Trish |
| Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:42 am |
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| just checked IMDB - DeNiro got an oscar nomination also |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:23 am |
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That and 25 cents...
Agree with Billy about the remake of Cape Fear, but I'm not overwhelmed by the original, either. I wonder if it's one of those "you had to be there at the time" things. Mitchum has the reputation for playing psychos effectively, but I wasn't impressed by his performance in either Cape Fear or The Night of the Hunter. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:00 am |
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| My favourite movie critic, the late Dwight MacDonald gave Cape Fear a rave review when it was current. I've never seen it, I guess even back then I was not in the mood for psycho movies, but I'll take his word on it. And of course Billy's. That's an unbeatable duo. |
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| mo_flixx |
| Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:31 am |
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| I liked BOTH "Cape Fears." |
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| mo_flixx |
| Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:20 pm |
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A HUGE thumbs-up for the 3-disc DVD set of Edward R. Murrow's "Person to Person."
I've only had a chance to watch a smattering of the interviews, but I have been struck by the deep love, humor, and dare I say "hot magnetism" between Mike Todd and Elizabeth Taylor; the intelligence and gentle charm of Marilyn Monroe; the "bossyness" of Esther Williams in her prime with her then husband (NOT Fernando Lamas); the unabashed capitalism and entrepreneurial spirit of Art Linkletter who appears with his ill-fated child Diane; and the deep religiousness (he was a Syrian Christian) of Danny Thomas [& family (incl. Marlo)] with his determination to build St. Jude Hospital.
Then there's Murrow himself - ever the epitome of suave charm and intelligent diplomacy.
A MUST SEE! |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:44 pm |
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| It was always claimed that Danny Thomas was a Lebanese Christian, but I think when he was born the whole region would have been Assyria or something like that. Their was a customer of ours and a friend of the family who used to say he was an Assyrian sometimes and a Lebanese at other times. He was also a Christian, so I guess that region changed hands a lot back then. He was about the same age as Thomas. |
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| Marc |
| Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:21 pm |
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| I liked Scorsese's CAPE FEAR alot. It was scary. |
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