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billyweeds
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:42 am Reply with quote
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The most embarrassing example of an aging rocker IMO is Henry Rollins, who has a show on, I think, IFC, in which he personifies pretension. Somewhere along the line this overgrown punk decided he was a really really deep thinker. It's hilarious for about one minute; then I have to change the channel.
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yambu
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:43 am Reply with quote
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billyweeds wrote:
....They get more eccentric (Bob Dylan), they burn out completely (Ace Frehley), they continue to rock (Mick Jagger), they continue to act like charismatic assholes (Ted Nugent). or they turn into quiet little Jewish gentlemen (Paul Simon).
heh, heh....
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Marc
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:56 am Reply with quote
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billy,

I saw Henry Rollins do a reading from one of his books. This was about 25 years ago. It was dreadful. I walked out. His criticism of shopping malls, television and capitalism was cliche-ridden crap. The kind of stuff we were saying back in the sixties. Boring and obvious. He's a knucklehead who thinks
he's smart.
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Marc
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:57 am Reply with quote
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Robert Plant continues to make excellent records. His last solo album is very good. Along with Neil Young, Tom Waits and Dylan, Plant sounds vital.
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billyweeds
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:12 am Reply with quote
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Marc wrote:
billy,

I saw Henry Rollins do a reading from one of his books. This was about 25 years ago. It was dreadful. I walked out. His criticism of shopping malls, television and capitalism was cliche-ridden crap. The kind of stuff we were saying back in the sixties. Boring and obvious. He's a knucklehead who thinks
he's smart.


This is on the money. He must get his fan base from airheadsareus.com.
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marantzo
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:19 am Reply with quote
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I wish I knew who Henry Rollins was. Sonny Rollins, him I know.
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billyweeds
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:26 am Reply with quote
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marantzo wrote:
I wish I knew who Henry Rollins was. Sonny Rollins, him I know.


Stick with Sonny. Henry you don't need.
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bart
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:52 am Reply with quote
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If you want to watch a beatnik, watch Dobie Gillis reruns. Your time will be better spent.

Sonny Rollins = jazz god! One of his compositions, St. Thomas, was the first thing I tried to play on the piano.

Still working on it. Almost there.

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chillywilly
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 12:18 pm Reply with quote
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marantzo wrote:
I wish I knew who Henry Rollins was. Sonny Rollins, him I know.

Henry Rollins.... lead singer of a late 70's Los Angeles punk band called Black Flag. He's been in several movies... Heat, Lost Highway and Johnny Mnemonic. His current band, ROLLINS BAND was recently on tour with another L.A. punk bank, X.

As for spoken word by 70's punks, I much prefer Jello Biafra (from the band Dead Kennedys). I heard him speak during the Spitfire Tour back 7 years ago. He was very compelling and entertaining.

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bart
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 12:21 pm Reply with quote
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I've seen the movies you mention, but only remember him as a prison guard, I believe, in Lost Highway. I used to work at a group home with a bunch of guys in their early 20s, who seemed to think he was pretty cool. Maybe his stuff seemed fresh to them.

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whiskeypriest
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 1:01 pm Reply with quote
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marantzo wrote:
I wish I knew who Henry Rollins was. Sonny Rollins, him I know.
Know ye not Black Flag? At last! Someone here I'm hipper than!

I never cared for them, not even when they periodically joined up with The Minutemen, whose lead singer aged the way rockers should.

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billyweeds
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 1:16 pm Reply with quote
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whiskeypriest wrote:
marantzo wrote:
I wish I knew who Henry Rollins was. Sonny Rollins, him I know.
Know ye not Black Flag? At last! Someone here I'm hipper than!

I never cared for them, not even when they periodically joined up with The Minutemen, whose lead singer aged the way rockers should.


What way is that? I'm fascinated.
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lady wakasa
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 1:43 pm Reply with quote
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Even I've heard of Black Flag (although I can't tell you what they did)...

I would say that Paul McCartney has become a safe, homogenized version of what he once was, and no one has been willing to tell him otherwise since the 1970s. He puts out the choral crap, which he really should avoid like the plague.

God, I hope Macca doesn't see this...

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whiskeypriest
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 1:44 pm Reply with quote
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billyweeds wrote:
whiskeypriest wrote:
marantzo wrote:
I wish I knew who Henry Rollins was. Sonny Rollins, him I know.
Know ye not Black Flag? At last! Someone here I'm hipper than!

I never cared for them, not even when they periodically joined up with The Minutemen, whose lead singer aged the way rockers should.


What way is that? I'm fascinated.
Uh... D Boon was killed in a car accident. It was a sick joke. Hope I die before I get old and all that.

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grace
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 2:02 pm Reply with quote
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D Boon was killed in a car accident.


I thought he also died at the magic rock star age of 27, that being the age at which Jimi Hendrix and Curt Cobain also passed. Better to burn out than to fade away....
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