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marantzo

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 10:57 am

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Mo,. I wasn't commenting on what you wrote. The topic in general just spurred me to give my opinion about one aspect of cries of sexism. Women in business suits can be very sexy.

chillywilly

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 11:03 am

Joined: 20 May 2004 Posts: 8250 Location: Salt Lake City

mo_flixx wrote:

The point I'm making is that there is a big difference between Eva Green and "M" dressed in business suits as high-powered career women...and Denise Richards as a nuclear scientist (huh?)...or '60's Shirley Eaton as a "golden girl."

Weel, that's the fantasy of it all. I mean, a bombshell for a nuclear scientist may not be real world, but it's fun to watch.

As for the contrast of M vs. someone like Jynx, M is portrayed as the responsible leader as opposed to someone that can be at Bond's beck and call in a whim.

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lshap

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 11:17 am

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Waitaminut - are you guys telling me that they changed the Bond theme music??? Come on now! I have to believe they've merely given it a tuck here, an accelerando there, but the basic tune is still intact. If not, the world has ceased to make sense...

chillywilly

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 11:53 am

Joined: 20 May 2004 Posts: 8250 Location: Salt Lake City

Weel, the Bond theme music plays throughout the film. I think what ehle initially was talking about was the song at the beginning, which the last dozen or so Bond films has had some major musician (Duran Duran, U2, Tina Turner, Chris Cornell for this lastest one) write a song that gets attached to the movie.

The familar theme music is still very much in the film.

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mo_flixx

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 12:31 pm

Joined: 30 May 2004 Posts: 12533

marantzo wrote:

Mo,. I wasn't commenting on what you wrote. The topic in general just spurred me to give my opinion about one aspect of cries of sexism. Women in business suits can be very sexy.

Demi Moore in the movie with...was it Michael Douglas?? Such a good "bad girl."

mo_flixx

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 12:34 pm

Joined: 30 May 2004 Posts: 12533

Come to think of it, Hitchcock may have originated the heroine in the grey business suit - so many of his ice maidens have worn then - except Tippi's in the "Birds" was a soft green.

dlhavard

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 12:38 pm

Joined: 24 May 2004 Posts: 1352 Location: Detroit (where the slow are run over)

Back from my vacation, I saw two movies while I was gone:

The Queen - I didn't expect much from this film. But I have to say I was blown away. The acting - superb. The storyline - superb. The scenery - superb. Everything was first rate and I was glued to my seat.

Happy Feet - Since it's been #1 for several weeks I expected it to blow me away - and it didn't. Not sure why it fell flat. I think it was mostly the story. It was like a 1/2 cartoon blown up to 90 minutes. It was well done animation-wise but I wish they had created a better storyline.

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Syd

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 12:53 pm

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lshap wrote:

I don't remember it at the beginning of the movie, which made sense since James Bond wasn't JAMES BOND at that point. They played it at the end.

I didn't like the song over the opening credits. Noisy and unmemorable.

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chillywilly

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 1:04 pm

Joined: 20 May 2004 Posts: 8250 Location: Salt Lake City

mo_flixx wrote:

marantzo wrote:

Mo,. I wasn't commenting on what you wrote. The topic in general just spurred me to give my opinion about one aspect of cries of sexism. Women in business suits can be very sexy.

Demi Moore in the movie with...was it Michael Douglas?? Such a good "bad girl."

Disclosure was the movie. And Demi was good in it.

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bart

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 1:28 pm

Joined: 05 Dec 2005 Posts: 2381 Location: Lincoln NE

Saw School for Scoundrel yesterday -- thoroughly enjoyable with BBT in full rude/crude/mean mode and John Heder advancing, slightly, beyond Dynamite. Scenes spoofing Reservoir Dogs (3-way paintball gun standoff), Spike Lee, and the 3,498 caper movies made in the past decade, to mention a few. And a large skewer for the whole self-help genre. Ben Stiller with 50 cats and irreversible psychosis.

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ehle64

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 1:43 pm

Joined: 20 May 2004 Posts: 7149 Location: NYC; US&A

Good points about the placement of the original Bond theme. It was played @ the beginning of the closing credits. It's really good music. I especially love it when the bongos come in.

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tirebiter

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 3:58 am

Joined: 20 May 2004 Posts: 4011 Location: not far away

Right-o, ehle-- the only original "Bond music" in the film is over the end credits. There's nothing in the film itself that sounds like the John Barry stuff we associate with earlier Bonds. I still loved it in all the previous Bonds when those big trumpets and trombones came blatting in, but the producers of Casino Royale made a good call in not including the nostalgia until the film was over. This is a "new" franchise, and they've made a clean break from the past, successfully I think.

If you want to hear "Bond music" throughout a recent film, watch The Incredibles-- it's a hilarious parody/homage to Barry's Bond stuff.

Trish

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 9:11 am

Joined: 21 May 2004 Posts: 2438 Location: Massachusetts

I disagree

that was the one disappointing thing about Casino Royale - there wasn't a great opening song (as there has been for other Bond films) and I also missed the original Bond theme

gromit

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 12:10 pm

Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 9008 Location: Shanghai

Children of Men is a pretty powerful dystopia. Clive Owen at times seems a little too pretty-boy for the lead part, and his occasional nervous hand gestures seemed comically overdone. But this movie generally works and is effective. Alot of references to current affairs, such as Homeland Security, anti-immigration policies, black hoods and terrorism. Definitely worth catching on the big screen.

Makes me want to check out Sólo con tu pareja (1991), an early Cauron film, recently put out by Criterion.

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Trish

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 1:08 pm

Joined: 21 May 2004 Posts: 2438 Location: Massachusetts

gromit wrote:

pretty boy?? never!!!! I'm jealous you got to see the film - I can't wait - it got some good reviews - from what I've read he 's supposed to play a sort of reluctant hero, a fish out of water , perhaps he was playing shell- shocked or a person woken from a long sleep (metaphorically). I don't think his character is supposed to be a tough guy

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