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mo_flixx |
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 12:28 am |
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No one has mentioned THE SCENT OF GREEN PAPAYA. |
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Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 2:09 am |
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mo_flixx |
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 2:15 am |
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I think Befade's choices are very interesting, but I know that she forgot to mention THE STAIRCASE!
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marantzo |
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 8:03 am |
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jeremy wrote: Isn't Mr Hulot a French version of Mr Bean?
If anything, it's the other way around. |
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marantzo |
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 12:35 pm |
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ehle64 wrote: No. The Criterion Edition's last shot is of his poor little auto pulling away from the hotel with the camera looking towards the beach from the hotel with the street in between. There were no alternate endings, either. Hmmm.
That's very strange. I know I'm not imagining it. I'm pretty sure it is the very last scene. She is on the train and is looking through the pictures she took on her vacation and she comes to the one of Hulot. She smiles and the music plays and FIN. It's very touching. It's possible that it was the penultimate scene with the shot of the auto pulling away the last one, but I don't think so. |
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lady wakasa |
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 12:57 pm |
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marantzo wrote: ehle64 wrote: No. The Criterion Edition's last shot is of his poor little auto pulling away from the hotel with the camera looking towards the beach from the hotel with the street in between. There were no alternate endings, either. Hmmm.
That's very strange. I know I'm not imagining it. I'm pretty sure it is the very last scene. She is on the train and is looking through the pictures she took on her vacation and she comes to the one of Hulot. She smiles and the music plays and FIN. It's very touching. It's possible that it was the penultimate scene with the shot of the auto pulling away the last one, but I don't think so.
You sure that isn't Play Time? The brain's off a bit today, but it sounds like it could well be. |
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marantzo |
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 1:40 pm |
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Not Playtime. I don't think I've seen Playtime. I just read some reviews of it and some scene seem familiar, but I can't remember seeing it, but it's not form that movie. I first saw M. Hulot in 1954-5 and I remember that end scene from then. I just did a search and the closest I could find was the beach landscape desolving into a postcard, but no mention of the woman on the train. As the camera and M. Hulot observe the other guests, the woman seems to be observing Hulot. Her dancing partner who has a problem with her bare back. |
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jeremy |
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 6:54 pm |
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marantzo wrote: jeremy wrote: Isn't Mr Hulot a French version of Mr Bean?
If anything, it's the other way around.
I know. I was just being rude. I'm not really a fan. |
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jeremy |
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 10:22 pm |
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I watched Troy again last night. Why? Because it was on.
It was worse than I remember. Perhaps I was too taken with the scale and sweep of it first time round. Brad Pitt and Eric Bana looked the part in the action scenes, which were generally well crafted, but they struggled under the weight of the portentous and leaden dialogue. They suffered for want of a better director and script.
It is unfair on any actress to have to embody Helen of Troy, to live up to the requirement to be such a prize as to warrant the launch of a fleet of a thousand ships. I can’t remember the name of the actress who played Helen, but I think her charms barely justified an afternoon punt on the Cam. Which, being the Engineer I am, compels me to rank her at a paltry one milliHelen (mH) on the Trojan Beauty Scale.
I think those in charge of the casting made a mistake of favouring looks over vivaciousness, and then compounded that mistake by going for an actress who conformed with the somewhat bland, Western standard of beauty, the blonde Swedish model. Helen needed to be enchanting, exotic and exciting, not someone we could compare, perhaps unfavourably, with the girl next door. Because we did not feel why Helen would provoke such unrivalled passions, it left a huge hole at the centre of the movie. |
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mo_flixx |
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 12:42 am |
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Jeremy -
The actress was Diane Kruger, who has done a good job in other things. She starred in JOYEUX NOEL. But I agree that she tends to be rather bland.
I can think of a 60's era Elizabeth Taylor as the kind of Helen you are describing. Would Helen have to be blond? Then again, Taylor WAS blond when she was in "Little Women."
Can't think of anyone else at the moment who would be perfect - Angelina Jolie, Salma Hayek?? Close, but not perfect. |
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lady wakasa |
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 2:48 am |
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mo_flixx wrote: Can't think of anyone else at the moment who would be perfect - Angelina Jolie, Salma Hayek?? Close, but not perfect.
How 'bout Uma? She did Venus petty well in The Adventures of Baron Munchhausen. |
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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 9:03 am |
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I'm afraid that women aren't the best judges of what kind of looks and allure would cause men to go to war. I think all your suggestions are lame, with Hayek being the only one in the ballpark. Gimme someone like that Brunette from Mulholland Drive or Gina Gershon. Someone who really inspires lust from a vast cross section of the heterosexual male population. Which brings me to something else entirely; If being gay is not a choice but an innate condition like heterosexuality, how can you be proud to be gay? Can I be proud to be heterosexual? They should change the name from Gay Pride Day to Gay Happiness Day. It might sound redundant but you can be happy that you are gay, you can't be proud that you are gay if you had nothing to do with it. |
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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 9:05 am |
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Why does Helen have to be blonde. Is she blonde in the original story? That part of the world doesn't have a lot of blondes. |
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billyweeds |
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 10:31 am |
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No one has mentioned Halle Berry for Helen. Aside from being African-American, she fulfills all the usual attributes for Helen. She is drop-dead gorgeous in a way only hoped for by all the contenders the other forumites have mentioned. |
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mo_flixx |
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 10:49 am |
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All good choices. The MULHOLLAND DR. actress is Laura Elena Harring. |
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