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| marantzo |
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| Though I wouldn't have Con Air on my top 10 list or probably not even on my top 1000 list, I did like it. |
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| jeremy |
| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:21 am |
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I always stuggle with top tens or twenties, or as mine turned out to be a dirty dozen, not so much because of the pain invovled in casting off favourites to comply with some arbitary, but because of the conflcit between heart, head and the whatever part of our anatomy it is that has do things for rhyme rather than love or reason or am I referring to the ego's unceasing struggle to...
The super-ego says,"Pick something by Hitchcock and Lean." "How can you leave out the Third Man or Citizen Caine it screams." "Wot no Kubrick!" While the id whispers, "Put down what you like, but you know you really wanna watch, Ilsa: She-wolf Of The SS."
The ego god bless him...her...it...me...us...says, "Come on chaps. Let's not beat ourselves up over this. We don't want to come across as too dry a cove, but at the same time we can't have everyone think your a shallow perv...I'll allow a Maitresse; it's kinky, but obscure and in French so...and I know we'll throw in a classic for balance...how about Lawrence Of Arabia...
...a Disney film...nice...brave choice...shows you can think for yourself.. and yes Id, pickng a family film will go down well with the babes..."
So where did Con Air come from? I know it doesn't belong in the Pantheon, but I think it's a funny, underrated film; a complete parody that just, and I mean just manages to keep a straight enough face to pass itself off as an all-star actioner.
I guess it's presence on my list indicates that the id won out over his so-called super other. Plus I knew it'd get your attention. We...I have chosen a dozen films that I'd like to watch tonight. Tomorrow the list will be different. Do any of you really, honestly, cross-your-heart-and-hope-to-die wanna watch Citizen Caine? |
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| shannon |
| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:39 am |
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| I watch Citizen Kane at least three times a year and have since I first saw it when I was 20. I honestly don't know where the "Does anybody actually enjoy this movie?" attitude comes from. I find it sublimely entertaining and it's one of the trickiest, hardest to pin down movies of all time. Multiple viewings always reveal something new. It feels just as fresh the 19th time you watch as it did the first and I have the feeling that I will never know everything it has to show me. Name another movie with this going for it. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:40 am |
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I'm such a lazy viewer that I often don't even watch movies that I want to watch. I figure I'll get another chance. I just saw a promo for Bad Day At Black Rock (which would be on my all time favourites list) and I may even miss it, but if I do, no problem, they will show it again.
The only reason that I knew about BDABR is because the year it was out a film critic that I always liked made his picks of the year's movies that were underrated, in a magazine. So I made a point of catching it when it came to one of the second run theatres. He was right of course. And I don't think the movie really got the recognition it deserved until many years later.
As a trivia thing, it was the first example of Karate in an American film. |
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| jeremy |
| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:44 am |
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shannon wrote: I watch Citizen Kane at least three times a year and have since I first saw it when I was 20. I honestly don't know where the "Does anybody actually enjoy this movie?" attitude comes from. I find it sublimely entertaining and it's one of the trickiest, hardest to pin down movies of all time. Multiple viewings always reveal something new. It feels just as fresh the 19th time you watch as it did the first and I have the feeling that I will never know everything it has to show me. Name another movie with this going for it.
Not Con Air then? |
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| shannon |
| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:45 am |
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| I like Con Air just fine, but The Rock is better. |
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| Ghulam |
| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:50 am |
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| I must confess I never enjoyed Citizen Kane. Clever camera angles can get tiring. Moreover it was aurally unpleasant. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 11:00 am |
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OK, another mindless anecdote from the desk of Marantzo:
In my Paris days, a friend of mine who worked for Reuters asked if I would take a female friend of his to see some of the famous cathedrals in and around Paris. She had worked with him at Time Mag. when he lived in NY and she used her vacation time to visit a different city every year, This year it was Paris. He really didn't feel like schlepping around to the cathedral country and he'd let me use his car. Being a lousy tourist, I didn't feel like it either and gaciously declined. A couple of days later I saw Citizen Kane for the first time and was very impressed. That night a bunch of us went to a Vietnamese restaurant that we frequented and my friend's woman friend came with us. I sat across from her. She was very nice. A real down to earth type. During the dinner time table talk I mentioned that I had just seen Citizen Kane and was telling everyone what I thought of it. At one point I mentioned that it was supposedly based on William Randolph Hearst, at which point, our vacationing Time Magazine employee said, "Grandaddy was so upset by that movie. And Grandma could never get him to forget about it."
BINGO! It hit me. Her name was Millicent Hearst. I never made the connection. I felt like such a putz. She was very nice though and wasn't bothered at all. We got along very well. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 11:05 am |
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shannon wrote: I like Con Air just fine, but The Rock is better.
The Rock sucked rocks. |
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| Trish |
| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 11:21 am |
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| Face Off was better than both |
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| daffy |
| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 1:11 pm |
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| Trish |
| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 1:30 pm |
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| oh it wasn't too bad - a good popcorn action flick - it had Joan Allen, Allesandro Nivola, it was well acted, well directed by Woo - wouldn't be on my top ten even twenty list but a solid B |
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| chillywilly |
| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 1:36 pm |
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| I liked Face-Off as well. It wasn't something I needed to see multiple times, but I enjoyed it. |
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| Befade |
| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 5:46 pm |
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No Nick Cage except Leaving Las Vegas.
Ten:
Spellbound
North by Northwest
The Swimming Pool
Vertigo
Hiroshima, Mon Amour
Klute
Sexy Beast
Pallindromes
The Fugitive Kind
Summer and Smoke
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| Marc |
| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 5:53 pm |
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befade,
thats an interesting top ten. Refreshingly different. |
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