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| Marc |
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| Both NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD and PLAN NINE FROM OUTERSPACE feature zombies (living dead). |
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| Syd |
| Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 10:17 am |
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chillywilly wrote: Unless the conversation involved past drinking experiences.
Color me just as confused about the comparison.
The premise of both movies is that alien influences raise the dead to stalk the earth. Wood provides more of an explanation, while Romero emphasizes the ghoulish aspects. Wood at least didn't do a sequel. Romero is about to do a fifth movie about the zombies.
I'm not sure how Tobe Hooper popped into my head. I've never even seen Texas Chainsaw Massacre
Joe Vitus wrote: How drunk were you when writing that post? Not only numerous spelling errors, but Tobe Hooper most certainly was not involved with Night of the Living Dead (you're thinking of George Romero). Nor does the synopsis you provide sound remotely like Night of the Living Dead (beyond people trapped some place all night; that plot device didn't exactly begin with Ed Wood).
We were having a bad movie night. We watched Princess Raccoon in pieces through the night, with Invasion (which isn't really that bad, just campy), The Terror of Tiny Town and Orgy of the Dead. I didn't have a drink until we reached the "skeleton dance" in Orgy, which no person should have to watch sober. We did finish Princess Raccoon, which actually made sense for a few minutes. About five, to be exact. |
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| gromit |
| Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 11:21 am |
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| Did anyone see or otherwise develop an opinion of Everything is Illuminated? A friend with good taste gave it a rave, so I'm intending to pick it up. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 11:37 am |
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| Yes gromit, I wrote a review on it many months ago. It's very good. I'm sure you'll enjoy it. Some very funny stuff too. |
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| gromit |
| Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 12:21 pm |
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Thanks, I'll do a search and find it.
I didn't remember hearing anything about it, but probably just forgot.
The Dvd cover sure stands out. |
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| gromit |
| Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 12:35 pm |
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| Wow, marantz your review was way back on Oct. 31, 2005. Almost a year ago. Sounds like my kind of film. I went ahead and read about 3 or 4 pages after your post. The site was busier last year, and I had indeed missed that patch. |
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| whiskeypriest |
| Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 12:35 pm |
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gromit wrote: Did anyone see or otherwise develop an opinion of Everything is Illuminated? A friend with good taste gave it a rave, so I'm intending to pick it up. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 12:52 pm |
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Syd,
Thanks for explaining the connection, but you seem to have misremembered the premise of Night of the Living Dead, or maybe the later films or the remake altered the plot. In the orginal, it is not that aliens raise the dead to stalk the earth. A space probe we sent out has been contaminated with radiation, the probe crashes to earth, and that re-activates the dead. There is no agenda, it "just happens."
In fact, Romero had wanted no clear explanation about why the dead are re-activated, and the movie originally contained three suggestions. The other two got cut out in the editing process, making the remaining theory seem like the answer.
Romero loved the EC horror comics, which heavily influenced the plot and tone of NOLD, and I'm guessing Ed Wood did too, so maybe that provides a link. |
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| Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 1:06 pm |
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Joe Vitus wrote: Syd,
Romero loved the EC horror comics, which heavily influenced the plot and tone of NOLD, and I'm guessing Ed Wood did too, so maybe that provides a link.
I hadn't thought of an EC comics connection. I wouldn't be surprised if you're right. It could be well be a case of two people drawing from the same source. |
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| chillywilly |
| Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 1:44 pm |
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| Marc and Syd, thanks for the explanation. Having been some time since I'd seen PLAN 9 and having never seen NOTLD, the connection wasn't evident to me. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 2:32 pm |
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| You should check out NOLD at some point, Chilly. It's a movie packed with wit as well as suspense, and really well made. It is very much of a downer in the final analysis, but not less worth watching as a result. I put it up there with Martin as Romero's best. |
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| chillywilly |
| Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 3:12 pm |
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Kissing On The Mouth
Director: Joe Swanberg
Unrated
I came across mention of this film in a couple of places. One on the web (not sure what site it was) and on Sirius Left, where the director Joe Swanberg, was a guest a couple of weeks ago. After being unsuccessful in finding the DVD at either Blockbuster or Hollywood Video (of which Joe mentioned during his interview that Blockbuster refused to carry it), I decided to add it to my Netflix queue.
The film is what I would call a pseudo-documentary. During the viewing, I often wondered how the director got normal post-college students to perform well while being on camera. Turns out they were all of the people that were the ones making the film, including Mr. Swanberg.
The flow of the movie kept me intrigued as it followed the sexual activites of former college students now living in the real world (the movie takes place in Chicago). Patrick, Chris and Ellen are the triangular focus of the movie, with Patrick (Joe Swanberg) playing the student that gets caught in the middle of Ellen's indecisive attitude and actions of her past serious relationship with Chirs. Fast forward to the present, where she is still doing the deed with Chris, but behind Patrick's back. Patrick and her are kind of an item, at least in Patrick's mind. But Ellen seems content to lead her life of sex and lies on videotape. When confronted by Patrick, she's a horrible liar and Patrick quickly sniffs out her finger fiddling and nose scratching (which the camera brilliantly catches) as she tries to cover up her recent bedroom escapades with Chris.
Overall, it was a revealing look at the sexual psyche that surrounds friends and former flames/current lovers and how they react in the world outside college. The film wasn't too long or too short and the various camera angles provided a visable roadmap that painted the theme of the movie. The camera (and the actors) are not shy when it comes to the sex scenes. Although no penetration is shown, you do see Patrick doing the solo pole pump in the shower, complete with a zoom of his finishing shot. Pre-coital maneuvers are pretty open on the camera, as are various post-coital involving nudity and used condoms. It can be dubbed as pseudo soft porn, but with a real world story to be told.
I'll be curious to see what Joe Swanberg does for his next film project, but so far, he has done an interesting film that takes a look at a subject that is sure to intrigue some into what makes former colleges students tick under the sheets. |
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| Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 3:32 pm |
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Joe Vitus wrote: You should check out NOLD at some point, Chilly. It's a movie packed with wit as well as suspense, and really well made. It is very much of a downer in the final analysis, but not less worth watching as a result. I put it up there with Martin as Romero's best.
I just added the movie to my queue.
Which, speaking of movies on my queue, Closer is getting watched tonight - no interuptions or other movies that sneak into the mix. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 3:38 pm |
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| Befade |
| Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 4:29 pm |
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For the love of zombies, check out White Zombie.
I saw a film I loved...........a completely overlooked film called YES. If you think Joan Allen does a good job, see it. If you thought Paradise Now had something to say, see YES. It's an unusual movie in that all the dialogue is in verse......that takes a while to get used to........it seems Shakespearean. Another strange component is the role of cleaning ladies........one in particular..........who give scientific overviews of what happens between people and their shedded cells. If you can get beyond those two discomforts the reward is huge.
YES was so moving to me I'm having a hard time writing about it. Basically, it's a love story between an Irish/American woman scientist (Allen) and a surgeon from Beirut (Simon Abkarian) who is working in London as a chef. It's about the tension between the cultures, countries, religions.........and how the U.S. is viewed by the Lebanese surgeon/chef. Besides the London location, it was shot in Beirut and Cuba.
Has anyone here seen it or even heard of it? It's my most recommended film of the year. |
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